Kinda surprised to see them looking … the same ? I saw a photo a long time ago on Reddit where a guy got a photo with him at a community theatre. And said Red was surprised he remembered / recognized him.
Lol, I didn't even think about that. Me and my childhood friend's banter would be a pc nightmare for modern tv. The late 90s got real bad with the airing of South Park. We talked about bundles of sticks a lot too XD
It's Netflix, someone will be bullied by a big meanie and then the friends will propose they have a school wide coming out party at the school of small town America like it was a regular non-controversial thing.
Needs baggier pants for everyone. Not for everyone, but also frosted tips, flannel, shell necklaces, chain wallets, low rise jeans, huge coats, untied shoes, one pant leg up, bowl cuts with the under shave, fades. Also sarcasm and indifference.
Comedy style and conversation is decidedly post-2000s. Clothing isn't really 1990s and it isn't being worn correctly for the 1990s, half those shirts would be tucked into baggy, faded jeans.
I mean. I don't think red or kitty would have renovated their house at all given the families' financial situation. Maybe new furniture as it wore out but not a full remodel, especially in the basement
I'm in for more Red. We'll see gow I feel a few episodes in. I hope they capture that 90s nostalgia and don't just make it a "kids of today in 90s clothes" type of thing.
TIL that 80s show even existed. Ah, did even go for a full year. Also doesn’t help i was like 5 at the time, I fell in love with that 70s show through re-runs.
Just to play devils advocate, were the original cast "such generic looking kids" before they grew on us and became iconic - I can't remember tbh, in my head they're always iconic.
Seeing this within hours of seeing an ad for the Willow reboot. The human animal isn't meant to handle this much emotional trauma in so short a timeframe.
I was just watching the clip where Donna finds her moms panties in Eric’s car and Michael and fes say “ERICCCCC YOURE A GODDD” I haven’t laughed that hard in a while. The memories…
What I love about scenes like that in the show is the background characters never react. It's like Seinfeld, the main characters can start yelling and screaming in a building and no one stops their conversation to see what's going on.
The one that gets me is the christmas episode where lori comes down and kelso comes running out the back room, slips and slams into the table. Lisa Robin Kelly (Laurie) is trying to hide her laughing, Debra Jo Rupp (Kitty) walks off camera but Ashton Kutcher just keeps acting like nothing happened. But that must have hurt, kudos for him for staying in character.
i watched it twice trying to find out what THEY thought was funny… kids acting like they smoked weed for the first time? having a guy on screen who’s cranky? dancing in a shitty multi cam kitchen setup? none of this is comedy it’s just things happening. idk y’all…
It is not a good sign the kids hardly say anything in the whole trailer. It's all Red and Kitty lines. I love Red Foreman as a character, but it can't be the Red and Kitty show.
From the table scene it looks like they are discovering weed. If they don't start smoking because DARE came to town then there is no hope for the show.
yeah... idk about everyone elses formative years but I think the pot culture of the 70s is very different from the 90s, in that it was much less available, and heavily demonized, and had greater penalties.
I wrote the best essay in 5th grade during DARE about how I would never do drugs. 20 years later my teacher and that police officer would be very disappointed in me if I ever see them again
As someone who grew up in the 90's, my grandparents's house was still very much stuck in the 70's. They had a chocolate colored refrigerator and lime green kitchen cabinets until 98.
For some reason I don't like when teenagers in a show are played by... well, actual teenagers. It feels like a Disney Channel show. In that 70's show the actors were all mostly adults and didn't come off as whiny or annoying.
I've always wanted a That 90s Show and I hope I'm not disappointed but... it's looking bad. These kids look and act like zoomers. The chances of a group of friends being that diverse in a 90s Wisconsin suburb is... I guess theoretically not zero, but yeah. The chances of them carrying over the offensive humor widely popular from that era into this Disney Channel looking ass show is probably zero.
I met Kurtwood Smith just by chance at a local arts fair. Never expected to run into a celebrity in my town. It was back when I was in high school and watched that 70’s show all the time. He had a beard and I could barely tell it was him. No one else recognized him. I walked up with my sister and asked “are you Red Forman?” He smiled really big and said “yes, I am.” I was so excited. Asked him to call me a dumbass, he obliged, and we went our separate ways. He was such a kind and warm person in real life. Love that guy.
Did your grandparents keep updating their decor after all their kids had moved out? I know mine didn't. The only thing that ever got updated in their houses was the tech (upgraded TVs, added a computer around 2010, wireless phone when the wall phone died etc.)
Kinda reminds me of the Scrubs should-have-been spinoff. Young faces, no comedy or chemistry, don't care at all about them just by looking at them. They masquerade on the beloved set that's bathed in softer, brighter light but don't contribute to its legacy.
I would've expected this to do something to catch some 70's show nostalgia, other than Red/Kitty of course. Going with kids that look like they're 13-15 makes me not even want to give it a shot. I understand they were all "young" in the first season of That 70's Show, but there is never any chance this show runs as long as that did so they could've done to make them older.
For a while now I've regarded entertainment releases without even a bit of optimism and I haven't really been disappointed much at all. Why does everything seem so dull and diluted? I know a lot of it is that I'm almost 30 but I swear stuff just isn't as good
> the table shots look different and worse. now they come off as flat medium shots from eye level, rather than the fish-eye perspective from the table.
I agree the table shots look different, but to me it's because the haze is all wrong. The new trailer looks like they just took a clean shot and add post processing haze, there's not layer of haze in the background, no haze adding just a little fuzzyness to the camera, etc.
As a person that was a teenager in the 90's I look forward to them misrepresenting everything and jamming in today's political climate into the show. The cast is already "rainbow friends". Wisconsin doesn't have that many minorities now, let alone several decades ago.
As someone who worked on the show I have mixed feelings about it. The creatives were enthusiastic but idk if they really capture the essence of the 90s. Plus there’s a real lack of hip hop. That being said, the kids are all great, specially Reyn Doi as Ozzie (breakout character imo)
I wonder if they gonna pretend Danny never existed.
They alluded to his character being fucking murdered on The Ranch so who knows lol
"I have to go now, my planet needs me" note: Danny died on the way back to his home planet
Can't they just say Hyde's in prison? It can be covered in 1-2 lines.
i mean if house of cards can almost pretend frank doesnt exist this show certainly can
“man, it sure was sad how Hyde died in that accident. Anyway-“
Who?
They should show a tv clip of him wanted by the FBI on a recreated version of Unsolved Mysteries with Robert Stack.
Can’t wait until they watch Robocop and comment about how much Red looks like the villain.
Can't wait until they watch That 70's Show and the universe implodes
I can't wait until they watch Robocop and comment about that guy getting shot in the dick.
You can't hate Red and Kitty for doing this. They deserve whatever payday brought them back.
Money is money plus Red gets to call a new generation of kids dumbasses
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Kitty is probably my fav tv character. I’ll def give this a watch
I always thought red and kitty were the starts of the show, but I am an old dude.
I'm just confused how they look pretty much exactly the same.
Debra Jo and Kurtwood having not aged a day and being in this show so heavily warms my heart
Kinda surprised to see them looking … the same ? I saw a photo a long time ago on Reddit where a guy got a photo with him at a community theatre. And said Red was surprised he remembered / recognized him.
So the kids will call each other ‘gay’ and ‘retard’ a lot on this show?
Those were the polite insults in the 90s haha
Calling people gay would be the sanitized version.
Gay retard was a common greeting.
if i dont get a "retard" episode 1 im out
Lol, I didn't even think about that. Me and my childhood friend's banter would be a pc nightmare for modern tv. The late 90s got real bad with the airing of South Park. We talked about bundles of sticks a lot too XD
It's Netflix, someone will be bullied by a big meanie and then the friends will propose they have a school wide coming out party at the school of small town America like it was a regular non-controversial thing.
This is also way more diverse than the 90s actually were. Especially in Wisconsin.
Of course not, because 2022 sitcom audience. Look at the casting choices.
Seriously didn’t even think about this. There are going to be a lot of f-bombs and I don’t mean fuck, coming out the mouths of these children.
Why not both? Didn’t we all call our buddy a gay retard at least once?
Your mom.
Nothing about this looks or sounds like the 90s
It's got that "what a 25-year-old thinks 30 years ago looked like" vibe to it.
Needs baggier pants for everyone. Not for everyone, but also frosted tips, flannel, shell necklaces, chain wallets, low rise jeans, huge coats, untied shoes, one pant leg up, bowl cuts with the under shave, fades. Also sarcasm and indifference.
Comedy style and conversation is decidedly post-2000s. Clothing isn't really 1990s and it isn't being worn correctly for the 1990s, half those shirts would be tucked into baggy, faded jeans.
Yup. I think that's why Stranger Things was so awesome, it got the whole vibe of the time, not just put modern kids into costumes.
To be fair, how authentic to the 70s was the previous show?
Yup. I was the ninities kid they are trying to emulate. The writers and actor kids have no idea what they are doing.
I mean. I don't think red or kitty would have renovated their house at all given the families' financial situation. Maybe new furniture as it wore out but not a full remodel, especially in the basement
ITT: SO many people who don’t know what the 90s actually looked or sounded like because they are basing it on 90s TV shows or memories of the 80s.
Looks like a Disney channel show.
And not in a good way
It can't be any worse than that 80s show. At least this has Red and Kitty as main
But That 80's Show had the Golden God in it.
I'm in for more Red. We'll see gow I feel a few episodes in. I hope they capture that 90s nostalgia and don't just make it a "kids of today in 90s clothes" type of thing.
They should bring THAT back. The cowards.
At least that had Chyler Leigh.
I thought you were joking..
TIL that 80s show even existed. Ah, did even go for a full year. Also doesn’t help i was like 5 at the time, I fell in love with that 70s show through re-runs.
How do you have such generic looking kids in a show.
I seriously watched the trailer five minutes ago and I remember nothing about the kids except there's an Asian kid that I assume is the new F.E.S.
Very Disney channel. Unfortunate.
It's like one of those cheesy disney channel teen shows. It doesn't look promising
That’s the Netflix model. A diverse cast of nobodies around a main white star or stars. They only have to pay real salaries for Kitty and Red
They're not generic, they're DIVERSE!
Just to play devils advocate, were the original cast "such generic looking kids" before they grew on us and became iconic - I can't remember tbh, in my head they're always iconic.
Check out the character descriptions on Wikipedia.
This looks terrible, it doesn't look or sounds like the 90s either
Aw fuck I can't believe you've done this
Seeing this within hours of seeing an ad for the Willow reboot. The human animal isn't meant to handle this much emotional trauma in so short a timeframe.
I was just watching the clip where Donna finds her moms panties in Eric’s car and Michael and fes say “ERICCCCC YOURE A GODDD” I haven’t laughed that hard in a while. The memories…
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What I love about scenes like that in the show is the background characters never react. It's like Seinfeld, the main characters can start yelling and screaming in a building and no one stops their conversation to see what's going on.
PANTIES DONNA, GLORIOUS PANTIES
The one that gets me is the christmas episode where lori comes down and kelso comes running out the back room, slips and slams into the table. Lisa Robin Kelly (Laurie) is trying to hide her laughing, Debra Jo Rupp (Kitty) walks off camera but Ashton Kutcher just keeps acting like nothing happened. But that must have hurt, kudos for him for staying in character.
One of the best shows of all time.
Lol red and kitty are going to be the ONLY saving grace for the show which is going to be absolutely mediocre
Well, everyone but Hyde’s gonna return/make appearances even Leo lol … so maybe it won’t be that bad….but it probably will lol
Nothing says fun more than a trailer/teaser with zero funny.
But there was a laugh track
You know how most trailers show the best jokes (or at least really good ones)? Yeah, that really tells you all you need to know...
Did you miss the part where Kitty was being nice but Red was being a hardass? Never gets old
I want to give it the benefit of the doubt, but it's netflix, where nostalgia goes to be killed
i watched it twice trying to find out what THEY thought was funny… kids acting like they smoked weed for the first time? having a guy on screen who’s cranky? dancing in a shitty multi cam kitchen setup? none of this is comedy it’s just things happening. idk y’all…
It is not a good sign the kids hardly say anything in the whole trailer. It's all Red and Kitty lines. I love Red Foreman as a character, but it can't be the Red and Kitty show.
The only funny was when Red said "That was mine" when one of the kids walked out with a cupcake
That looks completely uninspired and lifeless.
From the table scene it looks like they are discovering weed. If they don't start smoking because DARE came to town then there is no hope for the show.
yeah... idk about everyone elses formative years but I think the pot culture of the 70s is very different from the 90s, in that it was much less available, and heavily demonized, and had greater penalties.
Well it's at least edited with a nod to Dare. The "Just say... whoa".
I wrote the best essay in 5th grade during DARE about how I would never do drugs. 20 years later my teacher and that police officer would be very disappointed in me if I ever see them again
Oh boy this looks bad...
Netflix approves this actual trash, but Glow was cancelled. OK.
It looks like a parody of itself
It's like going to see your favourite band on their reunion tour, only to discover the only original members are the bass player and the drummer.
As a bass player I take offense. I agree but I'm still offended.
My favorite band is Rush so I'd be there for every night of the tour.
Primus would like a word with you
Sounds like blink 182 up until about a month ago
Red and Kitty are my favorite tv parents, so I dont mind this reunion tour at all.
This looks like shit
Why don't they look 90s?
The real That 90's Show is basically Seinfeld.
As someone who grew up in the 90's, my grandparents's house was still very much stuck in the 70's. They had a chocolate colored refrigerator and lime green kitchen cabinets until 98.
Red and Kitty look amazing - it's like a time machine. 10/10
For some reason I don't like when teenagers in a show are played by... well, actual teenagers. It feels like a Disney Channel show. In that 70's show the actors were all mostly adults and didn't come off as whiny or annoying.
How are they going to approach Mastersons character
Hyde ended up in prison? What a twist!
They'll either never mention what happened to him or if they do, he's in jail or dead.
"Hyde died on his way back to his home planet."
They won't.
In The Ranch they just killed him off. Then replaced him with Dax Shepard.
"Anyone remember that guy that raped people? Yeah, he used to hang out here too."
Use the Malcolm in the Middle one?
And Lori is dead in real life.
He’ll be off somewhere with Tina Pinciotti who left the house in episode 5 and was never heard from again.
I've always wanted a That 90s Show and I hope I'm not disappointed but... it's looking bad. These kids look and act like zoomers. The chances of a group of friends being that diverse in a 90s Wisconsin suburb is... I guess theoretically not zero, but yeah. The chances of them carrying over the offensive humor widely popular from that era into this Disney Channel looking ass show is probably zero.
Yeah it's looking pretty gay.
I met Kurtwood Smith just by chance at a local arts fair. Never expected to run into a celebrity in my town. It was back when I was in high school and watched that 70’s show all the time. He had a beard and I could barely tell it was him. No one else recognized him. I walked up with my sister and asked “are you Red Forman?” He smiled really big and said “yes, I am.” I was so excited. Asked him to call me a dumbass, he obliged, and we went our separate ways. He was such a kind and warm person in real life. Love that guy.
Most un-90s anachronistic thing wasn’t even the clothing, it’s the diversity of the kids for Wisconsin. That place was all white until ‘02
The 90's updated for a modern audience
What happened in 02
I like Red and Kitty's characters
It’s actually led by the original creators.
They're gonna shoehorn 2020 social issues into the 90s
Sad, so very sad
What part of this is supposed to be ‘90s? Is it Red wearing a plaid shirt? Yeah, that must be it.
Did your grandparents keep updating their decor after all their kids had moved out? I know mine didn't. The only thing that ever got updated in their houses was the tech (upgraded TVs, added a computer around 2010, wireless phone when the wall phone died etc.)
You know sometimes it's ok to not reboot TV shows.
Looks like they checked all the modern socially appropriate boxes but forgot the whole 90s part... Where's the neon, grunge, angst, goth, etc?
Meh. 1 season at best
I fail to see any 90s. Not the hair, not the clothes, not the house, not the dialog. Nothing.
If you ever feel bad about your performance at work, just remember someone honestly thought this was a good idea...
The idea is fine, the execution is too difficult to tell from a short trailer.
Idea is ok, but the execution...kill me
The new cast of kids looks like shit lol
Kinda reminds me of the Scrubs should-have-been spinoff. Young faces, no comedy or chemistry, don't care at all about them just by looking at them. They masquerade on the beloved set that's bathed in softer, brighter light but don't contribute to its legacy.
NetFlix is starting to become synonymous with phoning it in and low standards.
Starting?
Oh I get it... they are getting high like in the original show. Now that's some sharp writing there, keeping it fresh.
and if they didn't people would bitch about that too
No, just no. This looks like a Nickelodeon show. Ugh.
No
I would've expected this to do something to catch some 70's show nostalgia, other than Red/Kitty of course. Going with kids that look like they're 13-15 makes me not even want to give it a shot. I understand they were all "young" in the first season of That 70's Show, but there is never any chance this show runs as long as that did so they could've done to make them older.
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For a while now I've regarded entertainment releases without even a bit of optimism and I haven't really been disappointed much at all. Why does everything seem so dull and diluted? I know a lot of it is that I'm almost 30 but I swear stuff just isn't as good
like a root canal for the eyes
the table shots look different and worse. now they come off as flat medium shots from eye level, rather than the fish-eye perspective from the table.
> the table shots look different and worse. now they come off as flat medium shots from eye level, rather than the fish-eye perspective from the table.
Could it be due to wide aspect ratio vs 4:3 making fisheye look really off?
I agree the table shots look different, but to me it's because the haze is all wrong. The new trailer looks like they just took a clean shot and add post processing haze, there's not layer of haze in the background, no haze adding just a little fuzzyness to the camera, etc.
Could the fish-eye be a symptom of tube TVs? I watched it on a flat screen for my first time recently and don't recall any fish-eye effects.
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Lacks Jnco
looks awful, I give it one season
Cash in garbage
Will they mention 90's gaming consoles? That is important to me about the 90s.
As a person that was a teenager in the 90's I look forward to them misrepresenting everything and jamming in today's political climate into the show. The cast is already "rainbow friends". Wisconsin doesn't have that many minorities now, let alone several decades ago.
“Is nothing sacred? Is nothing fucking sacred?” -Joey “Coco” Diaz
At least the cast is diverse, right?
Right? The best thing about this is it's now diverse!!! /s
This looks terrible. None of this looks like the 90's in any way shape or form. Not during any part of the 90's early, mid or late.
When this show ends they should give it an ending like Dinosaurs where it’s an alternate universe where Y2K happens.
Honestly, it sounds more like that 902022's show.
Yuck
….yikes.
They had that ‘80s show a while back… it was awful
This looks so bad.
Oh but generic child number three said “Grandpa.”
Glad both actors are getting a pay cheque, but this show looks horrendous.
It doesn't really look or sound like the 90's though...
This looks horrible. 🤮🤮
Well, that looks absolutely terrible and they will probably cancel it in three days.
No no no. Red left his family and went to Detroit in the 90s, became a crime lord, and fought robocop That's the only correct timeline I accept.
I'll be watching just for Red and Kitty!
Reddit would have fucking hated That 70s Show if it premiered today.
good god this looks terrible
The cast looks like they were assembled during a committee meeting
The 90's will be "re-imagined" to fit today's "morals"
Had to downvote out of spite. I knew this day would come
I hope Red watches Robocop with one of the kids.
As someone who worked on the show I have mixed feelings about it. The creatives were enthusiastic but idk if they really capture the essence of the 90s. Plus there’s a real lack of hip hop. That being said, the kids are all great, specially Reyn Doi as Ozzie (breakout character imo)
I gotta ask, who is this for?
Wow. Netflix must have a diversity template all shows must follow.
The audience sounds in the background make it feel so desperate and kind of pathetic.
As someone who was part of the live studio audience, I find this comment highly offensive yet hilarious lollll
Red and Kitty haven't aged at all... what the hell?
The laugh-track means it's funny.
"If we include every demographic we can call any criticism racist."
Oh no... Is Netflix.
Wow this looks terrible
Inb4 "Reddit, what show was cancelled after two episodes that you didn't hate but didn't like?"
Meh
I did not like the trailer. Beyond the obvious style issues, this felt clunky and almost like a parody
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Rock bottom trash sitcom.
No wonder they mainly show Red and Kitty , the rest of the show looks horrible.
This show can sucks ass, BUT just for seeing RED and KITTY again, im gonna binge this! DUMBASS
This looks like something off of Disney. Yikes.
I’m calling it now. This won’t be good
I'm reminded here that they always try to put the funniest bits in the trailer... so???