Local Binghamtonian here. Activists around the community are holding a vigil soon for Buffalo. With a large asian college student population and a large black population in general its undeniable that if Gendron didn't have the money for gas, one of our local markets would've been the site of this atrocity
Here the good guy with the gun couldn't stop the bad guy with the gun and for killed. In another instance the good guy with the gun was too scared to shoot. And in another instance the good guy with the gun was killed by the police.
The guy literally killed a trained man with a gun because handgun bullets bounced off his body armor. Facts never get in the way of right wing talking points, it’s why they have to find morons like Crowder to repeat them.
Unlike that loser cop I play Call of Duty and EAT liberals for dinner. I would have destroyed that shooter with one hand behind my back. Don't fuck with this angry old man.
Strongly agree. And with how interlinked cops are with the far right, I don't want to discuss gun control until the police have been reformed and demilitarized, and white nationalist terrorist groups have been rooted out. Until those conditions are met, I'm staying as armed as I can.
this shouldn't even be fucking needed. you shouldn't need weapons to protect yourself from hate crimes. the state of america is so fucking infuriating.
I think that there is no overnight solution. The situation is dire, but good policies and an effort to change culture could theoretically resolve the issue. Do I think it will be done? Hell no.
I really don’t like this “take the guns away” thing from the liberal side. No fucking way am I comfortable with the police exclusively having firearms. The threat of violence from the proletariat keeps the bourgeoisie at bay at times
I wish you could edit titles because then I wouldn't have to reply to every comment saying this but yeah after reading some comments I agree. I realize taking everyone's guns isn't the solution, but stricter gun control is
Bullshit. You know what law-abiding, responsible gun owners do when there's an active shooter situation? They run the other way, just like everyone else.
17 January 1989, 24 year old Patrick Purdy went to his old elementary school shot 106 rounds with an AK-47, killing 5 children died with 30 more people hospitalized. He killed himself.
90% of gun violence is committed with handguns, vs rifles of all kinds not just AR/AKs at 4-5%. Provided an AWB prevented 100% of rifle murders the impact on total murders would be too small to reliably measure.
I’m about as far left as you can possibly be without being a full blown communist and I think gun rights are super important. You’re never gonna convince assholes like dog fucker here to give up their guns or even vote for come sense gun reform. When the inevitable civil war does break out do you really want these fascists to be the only ones armed to the teeth?
More guns didn’t help the kids at Parkland High School in Florida(the armed security guard fled the building when he heard shots). More guns didn’t help the people in the Wal-Mart in El Paso either(8 other patrons in the store that day were all armed and all of them fled). Everyone talks big until the shooting starts.
I'm sure dog cum guzzler has some great evidence that Ricky Hitler chose as black a neighborhood as he could target because of their StRiCt GuN LaWs, and it's not just something he pulled out of his unwashed ass.
CONVENIENTLY FORGETTING THE LAW ABIDING RETIRED COP SECURITY GUARD THAT WAS ARMED, ENGAGED HIM, AND FUCKING DIED, THUS ALLOWING 11 MORE PEOPLE TO GET FUCKING SHOT
Well, someone needs to tell Crowder that there WAS a "good guy with a gun" there, the security guard who DID shoot at this racist maniac. The maniac though had body armor on so it didn't do anything, and the guard lost his life anyway.
I think there has been a few examples of this happening, but in most of the examples even when there are good guys with guns(i.e parkland high school) they run away
“John Donohue, a law professor at Stanford University, was a co-author of a National Bureau of Economic Research study that examined how gun violence coincides with the ability for individuals to carry concealed weapons, known as Right To Carry (RTC) laws. The NBER study discredited the idea of the “good guy with a gun” as a possible solution to gun violence.
Some of the safest states in the country have permitless carry laws. Also since 1986 more and more states have legalized constitutional carry, yet murder rates are down since 86.
He is literally sponsored by a gun manufacturer. As though you needed more reason to take everything this motherfucker says about guns with a HUGE grain of salt.
If we could get rid of all of them with a snap of a fingers I’d be down. But how do we make everyone get rid of their guns? Buy backs don’t work and I don’t think the good ol boys and people that don’t give a shit about laws will follow the rule.
So im all for hating Crowder and anti-racism (I view it as primitive myself) Can someone give me a decent arguement on why we shouldnt be able to have guns?
First of all keep in mind I'm not really versed in guns as I am not American, I only live in the US plus I'm biased as I recently was in a shooting but when I made this post I thought banning guns means no more violence because no one will need them for self defense from evil fuckers like the bufallo shooter, but now I realize it's not that simple. People will still have guns illegally and the government can't just take everyone's guns plus I understand hunting and shit is a hobby for people. After thinking about it, people should have guns just laws should be WAAY stricter, but also there's the thing about alot of school shooters getting guns from their parents who are usally innocent and didn't do anything. It's a very complicated issue
Has “the left” ever actually passed any meaningful legislation around gun control after a mass shooting? The only thing in recent memory was the bump stock ban, and I can’t recall under which administration that took place 🤔
Ok Crowder, the right is pushing that he did this because he played video games. I mean between the two I did read about a gun being used to commit the murders and no mention of a Tarnished to be seen anywhere.
It doesn't matter how many guns are out there and how lax the guns are, there will always be soft targets. Unless they want to start mandating carrying a gun (not outside of the realm of possibility for them) there's always going to be people who just choose not to carry a weapon or who can't. I don't really know the laws in Buffalo but I can tell you from watching the video that 4 of those people almost certainly would have been shot even if they had guns. One of the people who was killed WAS armed with decades of training. Unfortunately he was completely outgunned so it didn't matter.
The security guard tried to, but the shooter had body armor and it deflected so the shooter killed him. Why would a regular citizen need body armor anyway? Genuine question
He thinks the shooter chose buffalo and drove 3 hours because strict gun laws? Good guys with guns protect people? Tell that to the security guard that was killed after he shot the fucker and did nothing because all the body armour. Jeezus fucking Christ fuck you crowder
It wouldnt. Guy had lv4 body armor on. That would have protect him from almost all guns and even take several direct hits from a ar. He was even shot at by a officer with no effect.
Not to mention there was a guard who was armed but got shot anyway because the gun man had body armor. Conservatives just ignore everything and make points that only make sense in a vacuum. So tired of trying to make sense of it and argue lol
So much fear being served on a platter. If you live somewhere where you fear gun violence it’s most likely a large city run by liberals. If you’re so scared move away, just leave your liberal bs behind. It’s not gonna work somewhere else.
The racist motherfucker chose Buffalo because that was the closest city with the highest concentration of black people.
I'm in a deep rabbit hole of conservatives on Twitter and it's insane how idiotic the extremists are. Every second post is
Local Binghamtonian here. Activists around the community are holding a vigil soon for Buffalo. With a large asian college student population and a large black population in general its undeniable that if Gendron didn't have the money for gas, one of our local markets would've been the site of this atrocity
This. A hundred times this. Also, a "good guy with a gun" tried to stop him and died. Oops.
Binghamton is filled with too many upper middle class white kids for it to be a target for anyone other than an overripened school shooter.
Crowder says this as the “good guy with a gun” was unfortunately killed in the process, and more people still died. He’s a disgusting human being
When did he say that?
Here the good guy with the gun couldn't stop the bad guy with the gun and for killed. In another instance the good guy with the gun was too scared to shoot. And in another instance the good guy with the gun was killed by the police.
Ban body armor 🤷♂️
I agree that not having guns would solve the issue, but at this point we are so saturated with guns there is not really any point,
Yeah that's a good point, I have to admit I'm biased too because I was in a shooting recently too and I was never a huge gun in the first place
And yet, many of these guns tend to be legally obtained. So we are clearly doing something wrong.
Good guy with a gun got murdered. Womp womp
It probably can be done as a long term society effort.
"We should give guns to the guns!"
And voting rights to ammunition!
My favorite response to this inanity likely ever:
The guy literally killed a trained man with a gun because handgun bullets bounced off his body armor. Facts never get in the way of right wing talking points, it’s why they have to find morons like Crowder to repeat them.
This may be a shock, given the source, but neither of those things is true.
Unlike that loser cop I play Call of Duty and EAT liberals for dinner. I would have destroyed that shooter with one hand behind my back. Don't fuck with this angry old man.
I want a gun in the future so I can defend me and my future boyfriend from people who want to hate crime me. Sorry I disagree with the gun take.
Yeah I gotta say, after reading some comments I'm convinced that at this point taking guns away isn't effective.
Strongly agree. And with how interlinked cops are with the far right, I don't want to discuss gun control until the police have been reformed and demilitarized, and white nationalist terrorist groups have been rooted out. Until those conditions are met, I'm staying as armed as I can.
this shouldn't even be fucking needed. you shouldn't need weapons to protect yourself from hate crimes. the state of america is so fucking infuriating.
The United States has more registered firearms than people. Disarming the entire populace is not a viable solution, and is logistically impossible.
I think that there is no overnight solution. The situation is dire, but good policies and an effort to change culture could theoretically resolve the issue. Do I think it will be done? Hell no.
it will cause another civil war, no questions.
I really don’t like this “take the guns away” thing from the liberal side. No fucking way am I comfortable with the police exclusively having firearms. The threat of violence from the proletariat keeps the bourgeoisie at bay at times
"Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary."
the vast majority of the left and the majority of liberals are NOT for complete prohibition.
I wish you could edit titles because then I wouldn't have to reply to every comment saying this but yeah after reading some comments I agree. I realize taking everyone's guns isn't the solution, but stricter gun control is
Except a brave individual unloaded their gun on the Shitler but the Shitler was wearing a fucking bulletproof vest.
Ban ammunition. Gun fetishist get to keep their phallic symbols and we get to have peace.
Bullshit. You know what law-abiding, responsible gun owners do when there's an active shooter situation? They run the other way, just like everyone else.
Have "responsible, law-abiding" citizens ever actually stopped a shooting?
On occasion, yes.
maybe back in the days of the musket.
Maybe like once, but even the gun nuts can't remember which one.
17 January 1989, 24 year old Patrick Purdy went to his old elementary school shot 106 rounds with an AK-47, killing 5 children died with 30 more people hospitalized. He killed himself.
90% of gun violence is committed with handguns, vs rifles of all kinds not just AR/AKs at 4-5%. Provided an AWB prevented 100% of rifle murders the impact on total murders would be too small to reliably measure.
The Left this, the Left that, its obvious that all the bitches left you chowder
I’m about as far left as you can possibly be without being a full blown communist and I think gun rights are super important. You’re never gonna convince assholes like dog fucker here to give up their guns or even vote for come sense gun reform. When the inevitable civil war does break out do you really want these fascists to be the only ones armed to the teeth?
I would like to introduce you to Carl Marks
yes leftists are for gun rights. so are most leftist groups (Marxists, communists, socialists etc). these people get leftists and liberals confused.
So what he's saying is...we need to arm black people as well as the Black Panthers...
"Gun laws" aren't why the shooter chose that specific area you racist, dog whistling piece of shit stain on the planet.
SocialistRA
Support your claim with evidence sir
I think we all know where that leads
More guns didn’t help the kids at Parkland High School in Florida(the armed security guard fled the building when he heard shots). More guns didn’t help the people in the Wal-Mart in El Paso either(8 other patrons in the store that day were all armed and all of them fled). Everyone talks big until the shooting starts.
Mass shootings are one of, if not the rarest forms of violence, responsible for less than 1% of murders.
I'm sure dog cum guzzler has some great evidence that Ricky Hitler chose as black a neighborhood as he could target because of their StRiCt GuN LaWs, and it's not just something he pulled out of his unwashed ass.
Guns are not like dog cum, Chowder chugger.
Fuck those who use a tragedy for there own political gain. Fuck those using it to blame the other instead of trying to improve on the obvious problem
CONVENIENTLY FORGETTING THE LAW ABIDING RETIRED COP SECURITY GUARD THAT WAS ARMED, ENGAGED HIM, AND FUCKING DIED, THUS ALLOWING 11 MORE PEOPLE TO GET FUCKING SHOT
Well, someone needs to tell Crowder that there WAS a "good guy with a gun" there, the security guard who DID shoot at this racist maniac. The maniac though had body armor on so it didn't do anything, and the guard lost his life anyway.
I think there has been a few examples of this happening, but in most of the examples even when there are good guys with guns(i.e parkland high school) they run away
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Yep I agree. I said this in other comments but
You mean like the security guard that shot at him and ended up getting killed because the shooter was wearing body armor?
“John Donohue, a law professor at Stanford University, was a co-author of a National Bureau of Economic Research study that examined how gun violence coincides with the ability for individuals to carry concealed weapons, known as Right To Carry (RTC) laws. The NBER study discredited the idea of the “good guy with a gun” as a possible solution to gun violence.
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Some of the safest states in the country have permitless carry laws. Also since 1986 more and more states have legalized constitutional carry, yet murder rates are down since 86.
He is literally sponsored by a gun manufacturer. As though you needed more reason to take everything this motherfucker says about guns with a HUGE grain of salt.
never disarm the working class
If we could get rid of all of them with a snap of a fingers I’d be down. But how do we make everyone get rid of their guns? Buy backs don’t work and I don’t think the good ol boys and people that don’t give a shit about laws will follow the rule.
So im all for hating Crowder and anti-racism (I view it as primitive myself) Can someone give me a decent arguement on why we shouldnt be able to have guns?
First of all keep in mind I'm not really versed in guns as I am not American, I only live in the US plus I'm biased as I recently was in a shooting but when I made this post I thought banning guns means no more violence because no one will need them for self defense from evil fuckers like the bufallo shooter, but now I realize it's not that simple. People will still have guns illegally and the government can't just take everyone's guns plus I understand hunting and shit is a hobby for people. After thinking about it, people should have guns just laws should be WAAY stricter, but also there's the thing about alot of school shooters getting guns from their parents who are usally innocent and didn't do anything. It's a very complicated issue
So his argument is that the only way to solve the problem of gun violence is more guns?
I'm gonna go back in time and shoot the guy that invented gunpowder. That'll stop gun violence.
Almost like we need nationwide gun control laws and not just state ones eh Steven?
Has “the left” ever actually passed any meaningful legislation around gun control after a mass shooting? The only thing in recent memory was the bump stock ban, and I can’t recall under which administration that took place 🤔
Uh oh smells like DNC in here
Ok Crowder, the right is pushing that he did this because he played video games. I mean between the two I did read about a gun being used to commit the murders and no mention of a Tarnished to be seen anywhere.
I agree, we should shoot fascists more often.
Pushing gun control to stop mass shootings is bad…got it.
I heavily disagree with your idea that a complete ban would work.
At this point alot of the like big names and faces for the right genuinely seem like troll accounts at this point.
It doesn't matter how many guns are out there and how lax the guns are, there will always be soft targets. Unless they want to start mandating carrying a gun (not outside of the realm of possibility for them) there's always going to be people who just choose not to carry a weapon or who can't. I don't really know the laws in Buffalo but I can tell you from watching the video that 4 of those people almost certainly would have been shot even if they had guns. One of the people who was killed WAS armed with decades of training. Unfortunately he was completely outgunned so it didn't matter.
Then…why didn’t a law abiding responsible gun owner protect them?
The security guard tried to, but the shooter had body armor and it deflected so the shooter killed him. Why would a regular citizen need body armor anyway? Genuine question
The shooter chose this location because there were people of color there.
It is literally impossible to get rid of guns
Yep, understood that after reading a few comments and discussing it with people here
That’s not safety. That’s war
As a NY gun owner with a permit to conceal carry, and someone that used to manage an FFL, there should be a higher bar for entry.
The armed security (good guy with a gun) got blasted because the shooter wore body armour and had a bigger gun...
A person did have a gun… and that’s also a lie stevo
There was a guard with a gun. He tried to stop the terrorist. It didn’t work.
He thinks the shooter chose buffalo and drove 3 hours because strict gun laws? Good guys with guns protect people? Tell that to the security guard that was killed after he shot the fucker and did nothing because all the body armour. Jeezus fucking Christ fuck you crowder
Guns don't kill people, Capitalism kills people.
It wouldnt. Guy had lv4 body armor on. That would have protect him from almost all guns and even take several direct hits from a ar. He was even shot at by a officer with no effect.
Not to mention there was a guard who was armed but got shot anyway because the gun man had body armor. Conservatives just ignore everything and make points that only make sense in a vacuum. So tired of trying to make sense of it and argue lol
Whoever controls everyone not having guns has all the guns though, and that doesn't sound very Gucci to me.
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Even if it was illegal to own firearms and you "took them all away", bad people will still have guns.
Bad people would certainly have guns. They’re called cops
And YOU (crowder) indoctrinate and radicalize these maniacs. Fuck you, sir.
Racist Domestic Terrorist Mass Shooter Apologist Steven Crowder over here. Fuck this twat
This guy is so dumb.
Imagine being as dumb as crowder and thinking more guns is the answer.
i don't want a gun, i truly think if i had a gun i'd be a danger to myself but i truly don't feel safe being empty handed anymore.
Ask how the Texas Walmart shooter got 23 kills if more guns is the answer
But if we don't have guns, how do we defend ourselves against the Trumpists?
I was under the impression that he chose the spot because of all the black people there but hey Steven Crowder believes it so it must be true
So much fear being served on a platter. If you live somewhere where you fear gun violence it’s most likely a large city run by liberals. If you’re so scared move away, just leave your liberal bs behind. It’s not gonna work somewhere else.
Not having guns at all? Fucking shit lib
Under no pretext
That would be most of the world population for you.