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Depends on how broad a definition we are working with, but we have almost always had hierarchies where those at the top were exploiting those at the bottom for material gain.
I’m very sure there were not abstractions of capital pre like 700s AD and that’s if you really want to extend the definition of capitalism. If you don’t count psuedo joint-stock companies in the tang dynasty you would probably pin the start to the North Sea in like the 1400s or Italian city states in the 1300s.
Ever heard of feudalism? Capitalism is relatively recent in human history. Just maybe 3-400 years old. There were proto capitalist systems in certain parts for some periods before that but capitalism only started becoming a proper system in the 17th/18th century. Before capitalism was a system of feudalism. Read a book.
About 8% of the world population lives in extreme poverty at the moment. However a majority live under the Upper-middle income poverty line. You might be confusing these two figures.
Was it really poverty when everyone’s standard of living was pretty much the same, there were no billionaires and everyone work together for the good of the community?
Yes it was really poverty. Many of the things associated with poverty such as high susceptibility to various diseases existed in the past. Just because there was no billionaires doesn’t mean people weren’t on the border of starvation.
Yeah, her "extensive study" (She looked at a graph of extreme poverty (Which is defined as $1.90 a day, an arbitrary number) over time from OurWorldinData).
On par for this idiot, who during a church speech (in Texas to a group of women) indirectly refered to McCarthy as a "demon" and cited a Bible verse used to pray for the death of ones enemies (referring to Biden).
Extreme poverty is no longer the standard. She is technically correct, though it would be better to add that extreme poverty was the standard until like 30 years ago and so it’s misleading. However capitalism/liberalization in china was a driving force for a lot of that.
My favorite right wing talking point is when they talk about how capitalism lifted “billions” out of poverty in the past 30-40 years they NEVER bring up that is was in China because of the reforms of Deng Xiaoping.
This reminds me of when someone tweeted “the solution to Black poverty is Black capitalism” to which someone replied “capitalism hasn’t solved white poverty, why would it be any different for Black people?”
Not saying that I agree with Marx's theory, but most Marxists would argue that a communist society needs to be based on a capitalist one. She's just assuming everyone who's against capitalism wants to revert back to a Rousseaunian pastoral
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This reminds me of that Fox News bit where they said people aren't really in poverty because they have microwaves and refrigerators
Well yeah, poverty is when no microwave
On a global scale, a piss poor American is just sort of average. But that's a stupid scale to use.
“Hotshot peasant has window”
If you're not naked and starving, you're not poor, right?
Welfare? You have it like 20 times better than the average Kenyan GTFO.
"The Great Depression happened before capitalism!"
no, saying something used to be the standard isn't the same as saying it doesn't exist anymore
And it was not the standard. Solidarity and gifting have always existed.
To my knowledge, there was never a before capitalism, Lauren Bozo
You mean they’re just rebranding unequal power and wealth distributions as new overlords take control…. No no no no no - this can’t be happening?!?!?
Depends on how broad a definition we are working with, but we have almost always had hierarchies where those at the top were exploiting those at the bottom for material gain.
I’m very sure there were not abstractions of capital pre like 700s AD and that’s if you really want to extend the definition of capitalism. If you don’t count psuedo joint-stock companies in the tang dynasty you would probably pin the start to the North Sea in like the 1400s or Italian city states in the 1300s.
Ever heard of feudalism? Capitalism is relatively recent in human history. Just maybe 3-400 years old. There were proto capitalist systems in certain parts for some periods before that but capitalism only started becoming a proper system in the 17th/18th century. Before capitalism was a system of feudalism. Read a book.
Checks out. It was the standard. It still is, but it was, too.
About 8% of the world population lives in extreme poverty at the moment. However a majority live under the Upper-middle income poverty line. You might be confusing these two figures.
They covered this in the GED classes she took. lol
Was it really poverty when everyone’s standard of living was pretty much the same, there were no billionaires and everyone work together for the good of the community?
That's just not correct.
Yes it was really poverty. Many of the things associated with poverty such as high susceptibility to various diseases existed in the past. Just because there was no billionaires doesn’t mean people weren’t on the border of starvation.
That’s an interesting take on feudalism
Words of wisdom from Bobo the clown 🤡
Bobo is too stupid to know that capitalism existed before this country’s founding, but that would require her to read a history textbook
It was the standard before communism then also
🤔
Okay but what about now? It seems pretty standard still.
Not really, to be honest. She's both right and wrong.
You have a very warpes view of history.
Yeah, her "extensive study" (She looked at a graph of extreme poverty (Which is defined as $1.90 a day, an arbitrary number) over time from OurWorldinData).
Ignore the stupid.
On par for this idiot, who during a church speech (in Texas to a group of women) indirectly refered to McCarthy as a "demon" and cited a Bible verse used to pray for the death of ones enemies (referring to Biden).
Yeah, and the rich did nothing about it back then either.
She doesn’t even know American history, how the fuck can she extend that out to world history!?!
*Looks at the homeless encampment down the street*
Extreme poverty is no longer the standard. She is technically correct, though it would be better to add that extreme poverty was the standard until like 30 years ago and so it’s misleading. However capitalism/liberalization in china was a driving force for a lot of that.
Clearly she has never heard of the Great Depression
"Everything's fine now!
then when, exactly, pray tell, "was" capitalism?
The easiest way into politic nowadays is to be uneducated, stupid and republican. Guarantied entrance!
My favorite right wing talking point is when they talk about how capitalism lifted “billions” out of poverty in the past 30-40 years they NEVER bring up that is was in China because of the reforms of Deng Xiaoping.
This reminds me of when someone tweeted “the solution to Black poverty is Black capitalism” to which someone replied “capitalism hasn’t solved white poverty, why would it be any different for Black people?”
And nothing has changed since then
Not saying that I agree with Marx's theory, but most Marxists would argue that a communist society needs to be based on a capitalist one. She's just assuming everyone who's against capitalism wants to revert back to a Rousseaunian pastoral
Yeah, nothing like today
So, Bobo The Clown is saying we don't have Capitalism yet, since we still have extreme poverty.
Oh, I would LOVE for her to explain this deranged little idea in excruciating detail.