Move Starmer first, when he comes back Corbyn will be living rent free in Sunak's head so they can be moved together, this will reduce the carbon footprint of the move saving planet earth and the job will be complete.
I can only assume you mean "gilded" which is the sense of being covered with gold, rather than "guilded" which is the sense of being a member of a guild.
I've always thought we should marry Prince George to some Japanese princess and become the United Kingdom and Empire of Great Britain, Northern Ireland, and Nippon.
Johnson's climate czar - and Net Zero architect, Chris Skidmore (41), is standing down from Parliament at the next election. Another high-profile retirement.
I suppose the closest we've had to that recently would be the net-zero by 2050 target, though it hasn't really felt like much of a collective effort to achieve it so far.
Life in the oceans must be sheer hell. A vast, merciless hell of permanent and immediate danger. So much of a hell that during evolution some species—including man—crawled, fled onto some small continents of solid land, where the Lessons of Darkness continue.
maintain the two power standard and extend the Empire to every axis of the Oort Cloud, a flag on a thousand worlds and a myriad jewelled bronze warships glinting in the light of the Enduring Empress's sun to ward off the creatures from dark space and protect the Helium-3 lanes
This might be sad but anytime Starmer writes an article for the Sun/Mail/Telegraph/Express espousing how Brexity he’s going to be, the ensuing outrage and cries from the FBPE crowd is so fun to watch.
Would well done privatisation improve British healthcare beyond the point it's currently at? Absolutely, look at countries like Germany that have very good private healthcare.
It might increase availability of appointments for those that can afford to go private, if there's currently a delay on private treatment, since they'd get more access to the NHS resources they use. So it might improve things for wealthy people. I'm taking a very broad reading of "anything" there.
It will never stop being funny to me that the reason so many public sector workers are asking for big % pay rises is because the Tories spent 12 years with stupidly low inflation giving them below inflation pay rises.
Kinda, but I think the nurses screwed up by acting in the national interest during the pandemic and accepting nice free claps alongside pay freezes rather than a decent pay rise. They put the country first, and now the nurses are (and I believe will continue to) paying the price.
There's a variety of different converters and upscalers out there, but you really want an actual CRT for those old consoles. The games look like dried up dog shit on modern TVs.
Wellcome's woke speak is more intense and self-depricating than most anything I've seen from an American institution . The letter by the president following their "audit" was one of the most crazy sounding things I've ever read.
I don’t really see the benefit of not showing a bunch of stuff that were collected by one person, surely the alternative is nobody sees it and it’s locked away somewhere? I think I’d understand a museum repatriating artifacts that others have a claim on, or donating them to museums in areas closer to their original history. But in this case I don’t see that happening, it seems they’re just going to keep a collection private instead of public.
The Wellcome collection has definitely switched its focus towards being diverse and inclusive as a priority over being educational and a place worth visiting. Their last few exhibitions have definitely been lower quality than those of even a few years ago.
Oh that's a shame. It was a great exhibition and a very unique museum. The way things were exhibited it made you think and a dig a bit deeper. The staff were good at giving context to it all too.
Is there anything you can do to report a house with one of those high pitched alarms to stoped kids hanging around? Such an antisocial thing to have installed…
There's a few houses on our street which have those anti-cat things on their front lawns. Quite often see our three, and some of the other neighbourhood mogs, just sat chilling in front of them.
There's a house near me with one of those motion detectors that scare cats (I assume) by playing a high pitched noise. My ears are still young, and it hurts my ears - but the worse part is it startles the Dog when we walk past.
There's so many different types of immigration. The only thing I can say about it in general is that, if we net a few hundred thousand more people each year, eventually it will get crowded unless we rapidly improve infrastructure.
With Blair we got cool Britania. With Cameron we got no money left. Any thoughts on what Starmers defining 'and then they voted him in' moment will be?
If I was Forklift Certified I'd definitely start a Forklifters Union of Qualified Shifters, so that one day at PMQs the opposition leader can say "Will the Prime Minister commit to XYZ, for FUQS sake?".
Saying we should avoid changing a harmful policy because it's in the past makes him a legend? Do Labour carry on with austerity too because we "need to face the future"?
Is that price increase not more a result of the reduced hours they are doing? I'm not strong on maths but the increase in price looks proportional to the reduced operating hours.
It seems to me that our tax system simply isn't set up to give governments the ability to have public services adapt to high immigration flows. People who come to work on low wages - the biggest beneficiaries of free movement since they are least likely to be able to get work visas - pay very little in income tax because we have such a generous personal allowance and very low social security contribution payments (i.e. NI). In Germany, between public health insurance, unemployment insurance and pension contributions, you pay around a third of your income specifically to pay for healthcare, pensions and unemployment benefits. It doesn't cover the entire cost of these three expenses, but it does mean that extra pressure on e.g. healthcare will be offset by tax revenue to some degree.
My local Tesco have got new cashier tills with a bizzare UX choice. They've moved the card machine away from the side you pack and over to the side where the conveyor belt is, so you have to walk back up to where the next person in line has advanced to pay. It used to be right by the packing area which was much more natural. Absolutely baffling.
Some of the self serve tescos in England have new software on it and it’s awful. Laggy, stuff doesn’t scan, whole thing crashes. Looks like they’ve developed their own software rather than licence then standard one that all other shops seem to use.
Have energy companies disabled self-service credit refunds across the board to try to trap more customer credit? I'm with Octopus and they always used to let you just request a refund on the site. Instead that page now says I can't, and it's probably because my meter readings are out of date. They're smart meters and I've checked there's data up to yesterday. I emailed them and they sorted a refund, but ignored my question of why I can't do it myself any more.
Went to Morrisons before and ended up buying a bottle of Advocat, which I've since demolished. Best thing about Christmas is becoming temporarily dependent on alcohol followed by a dry spell until it is warm enough for beer gardens again.
My council thought it would be a jolly good idea to get into property development, and it's now literal billions in debt. Local government makes our Westminster crackpots look like geniuses.
I think my favourite thing about Brexit is that it unravels the main plank of our foreign policy going back about as long as there's been an England to have a foreign policy. We don't want a European hegemon that can push us around. Well, we've completely and utterly fucked that one, as the EU is the European hegemon, and we're now on the outside.
I absolutely loved the episode of Yes Minister about Europe. Britain's primary objective is to keep Europe disunited and the best way to achieve that was being in the EU.
I think we must be at the point where even if you're normally a tory voter you just think it's time for the other lot to have a go. What's the worst Labour could do in 4 years. (Actually don't answer that. Woke banks?)
Knowing a Tory voter who ripped up his membership when Truss got in, this is exactly his view. They need time out of power to rebuild and blood new talent.
Most Tories I know are ready to not vote this government because they feel they are too left wing amongst other considerations such as corruption/non-dom.
I’m curious what the error margins are there, those swings seem quite big for a 5 day period where I don’t think much happened (18th-23rd). Unless I’m forgetting something!
Given the overwhelming vote for Curtis, it does seem a little stupid in retrospect to have blocked Townsend for what looked to be quite spurious reasons. He's very likely to have won anyway, as the much better candidate.
There's a lot of talk of the Tory purge in 2019, and how that has seriously reduced the number of talented MPs in the party. But I think just as damaging to the current crop's quality is the way they've been conditioned to behave over 3 years of Boris. How can you spend 3 years regurgitating government lies and deflections, dodging every single question you're asked, criticising people for talking the country down, etc. and then be able to exercise the sort of critical thinking required of a minister?
People acting like the Tories weren't running on fumes before 2019 is sort of hilarious, given that they fucking foisted Brexit on the nation to try and quell their infighting and bleed to UKIP.
Interesting to see that the London Fire Brigade story isn't getting any traction here. You'd think a report finding that one of the UK's big public institutions (with some 6,000 employees) was institutionally racist and misogynist would be a big deal...
I expect the primary concern for most people about the fire brigade is whether they continue to fight fires. As long as they continue to do that, a lot of people won't care too much about the rest.
Agreed! Maybe something to do with timing too? Someone submitted the article at like 9pm last night, around the end of the England game. Most of the front page looks like it was submitted earlier today. Maybe would have got more attention if it was submitted this morning.
This megathread has ended.
A man has to get Rishi Sunak, Jeremy Corbyn, and Keir Starmer across town to a charity function.
Move Starmer first, when he comes back Corbyn will be living rent free in Sunak's head so they can be moved together, this will reduce the carbon footprint of the move saving planet earth and the job will be complete.
https://twitter.com/explorewellcome/status/1596091202381975552?s=46&t=yj4Q0BuDr9h5XjNDNCqBnA
It’s taken me all night, but done one of the final end game bosses in GoW. Will spend the whole day tackling the other way tomorrow.
I just beat Plague Tail and now I feel empty inside.
Cool Brain of Britain question:
It used to have
I can only assume you mean "gilded" which is the sense of being covered with gold, rather than "guilded" which is the sense of being a member of a guild.
Yob… hoodie… oik… hooligan… lad…
On the happy bus home. What a lovely evening.
That feeling of being pissed and seeing the lights fly by when you’re in a car is not as pleasant as you just made it sound
seven eighths cut, are we?
You have excellent fingering skills to get all that on a bus window. Bravo!
Did David Davies stand down or just say he is expecting an election?
david davis for freedom pt 2 the davening
Two questions:
so its official, as predicted when the gov announced the great UK-Japan trade deal, its actually cut exports to Japan....
I've always thought we should marry Prince George to some Japanese princess and become the United Kingdom and Empire of Great Britain, Northern Ireland, and Nippon.
Or... exports are just down with Japan and correlation isn't causation, I thought the deal was largely a rollover from an EU trade deal.
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In the next cold snap turn your heating down low. Single digits to avoid something freezing.
Cause I enjoy lazing about in my pants eating Coco pops
You sound Tory
Lovely evening catching up on Location Location Location. Ah
Johnson's climate czar - and Net Zero architect, Chris Skidmore (41), is standing down from Parliament at the next election. Another high-profile retirement.
All the young Tory MPs abandoning ship is tragic for the party’s post election future.
The England vs Wales group match coming up in the World Cup apparently had
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What is the main goal of the UK; the purpose that drives our nation forward - what do we want to achieve?
I suppose the closest we've had to that recently would be the net-zero by 2050 target, though it hasn't really felt like much of a collective effort to achieve it so far.
We want to be the best at exceptionalism but we're not very good at it.
Annoying the French?
Life in the oceans must be sheer hell. A vast, merciless hell of permanent and immediate danger. So much of a hell that during evolution some species—including man—crawled, fled onto some small continents of solid land, where the Lessons of Darkness continue.
maintain the two power standard and extend the Empire to every axis of the Oort Cloud, a flag on a thousand worlds and a myriad jewelled bronze warships glinting in the light of the Enduring Empress's sun to ward off the creatures from dark space and protect the Helium-3 lanes
Enriching Tory party donors
Wanna win the darts
Starmer is right to rule-out re-opening all the Brexit old-wounds.
We could of spent the last 6 years sorting out other issues. Stable government, more focus on immediate issues.
Careful you don't fall victim to Remainers Under Every Bed Derangement Syndrome.
Labour’s pitch seems to be Ride of the Valkyries at 130dB. And much like that tune nobody wants to talk about the details.
This might be sad but anytime Starmer writes an article for the Sun/Mail/Telegraph/Express espousing how Brexity he’s going to be, the ensuing outrage and cries from the FBPE crowd is so fun to watch.
It amuses me because he's not actually Brexity. He's just not gonna lick the third rail to see what happens next.
It shows the left aren't as left-wing as they claim to be.
Skidmore going
Interesting so many are standing down now. I'd say they might know something we don't but if they did it'd get leaked
Am I right in thinking that privatising the NHS wouldn't fix anything?
Would well done privatisation improve British healthcare beyond the point it's currently at? Absolutely, look at countries like Germany that have very good private healthcare.
Depends on what you'd be aiming to fix.
It might increase availability of appointments for those that can afford to go private, if there's currently a delay on private treatment, since they'd get more access to the NHS resources they use. So it might improve things for wealthy people. I'm taking a very broad reading of "anything" there.
Worked fantastically for the railways and the energy sector didn't it?
It would make it more expensive, at least.
Everyone should listen to Waltz of the Flowers, you've probably heard it before but it really is lovely
The one good thing about Christmas is hearing the Arabian Dance again.
TalkTv with a Dracula correspondent on, as you do of course.
Damn that's a dream job. If it's the book or the Coppola movie. If it's the BBC/netflix series I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole
It will never stop being funny to me that the reason so many public sector workers are asking for big % pay rises is because the Tories spent 12 years with stupidly low inflation giving them below inflation pay rises.
Kinda, but I think the nurses screwed up by acting in the national interest during the pandemic and accepting nice free claps alongside pay freezes rather than a decent pay rise. They put the country first, and now the nurses are (and I believe will continue to) paying the price.
I have just come into possession of an original NES.
>Momentum is responsible for the death of analogue tv
Buy a CRT.
There's a variety of different converters and upscalers out there, but you really want an actual CRT for those old consoles. The games look like dried up dog shit on modern TVs.
It will have component out in some shape or form so look for an RCA to HDMI device, probably £10 I guess.
New YouGov numbers:
🥱 Wake me when it's Lab 60
That CON number is definitely declining. Good 3 points over 2 weeks.
Wellcome collection now permanently closing a free exhibit due to their bizarre radical progressivism
Wellcome's woke speak is more intense and self-depricating than most anything I've seen from an American institution . The letter by the president following their "audit" was one of the most crazy sounding things I've ever read.
I don’t really see the benefit of not showing a bunch of stuff that were collected by one person, surely the alternative is nobody sees it and it’s locked away somewhere? I think I’d understand a museum repatriating artifacts that others have a claim on, or donating them to museums in areas closer to their original history. But in this case I don’t see that happening, it seems they’re just going to keep a collection private instead of public.
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I saw an exhibition about the Stone Age at the British Museum, and they’d managed to shoe horn loads of stuff about gender identity into it.
The Wellcome collection has definitely switched its focus towards being diverse and inclusive as a priority over being educational and a place worth visiting. Their last few exhibitions have definitely been lower quality than those of even a few years ago.
From the linked website;
Oh that's a shame. It was a great exhibition and a very unique museum. The way things were exhibited it made you think and a dig a bit deeper. The staff were good at giving context to it all too.
It is the natural corollary from the concept of "cultural appropriation".
It does feel a bit daft... rather than describe history they instead wish to lock it away and not mention it.
This feels like a lot of text to say "I don't like my job".
Cheers xxxx
What are those? Green Sausages?
Feel ya bro, the cost of living crisis is hitting us all hard beans and gravy getting expensive
It’s missing Bisto gravy.
It is the End of Days
Well we know what will be on the front page of the Sundays tomorrow
Is there anything you can do to report a house with one of those high pitched alarms to stoped kids hanging around? Such an antisocial thing to have installed…
There's a few houses on our street which have those anti-cat things on their front lawns. Quite often see our three, and some of the other neighbourhood mogs, just sat chilling in front of them.
They're mainly for cats I think (which I assume is what's causing the problem for you).
There's a house near me with one of those motion detectors that scare cats (I assume) by playing a high pitched noise. My ears are still young, and it hurts my ears - but the worse part is it startles the Dog when we walk past.
Curiosity: Does anyone feel their opinion on immigration / asylum seekers has changed over the last few months?
There's so many different types of immigration. The only thing I can say about it in general is that, if we net a few hundred thousand more people each year, eventually it will get crowded unless we rapidly improve infrastructure.
what was your job experience? language and culture issues?
I also feel there’s a lot of nuance lost. There are different kinds of immigration.
I feel like most people won't fall for it
I've definitely notice this subreddit becoming a lot more anti-immigration compared to a few months ago. I've only become more supportive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STZvIvcQH70
A lot!
Complete with a typo in the graphic.
You know for a fact if Brass Eye was still a thing GB news would fall for their shit 100% of the time.
Putting 999 on speed dial so I’m ready when I walk past houses with Christmas decorations up
House opposite me have been blasting the lights for like 2 weeks now. Energy bills gonna be through the roof it looks like.
… how slow are you at pressing 9 three times?
With Blair we got cool Britania. With Cameron we got no money left. Any thoughts on what Starmers defining 'and then they voted him in' moment will be?
Thank fook- the cavalry’s arrived..
I like cavalry is coming. But I believe the defining thing will be ‘broken Britain’
It's probably going to be some tin-eared recession denialism from the likes of Rees-Mogg
The cavalry that arrived but couldn't do anything
Alpacageddon
Rees-Mogg finally snapping and shooting up a job centre with a longbow.
If I was Forklift Certified I'd definitely start a Forklifters Union of Qualified Shifters, so that one day at PMQs the opposition leader can say "Will the Prime Minister commit to XYZ, for FUQS sake?".
Reminds me of the 90s where we had Free the United Kingdom from Drugs. They did well to battle cake
Will Keir Starmer start Foden?
He wouldn’t start Kane
This actually seems like the type of shit house politicking that starmers been doing of late.
They're a massive trading partner, the future is Brexit negotiation regardless of who's in charge.
No you don't understand
Saying we should avoid changing a harmful policy because it's in the past makes him a legend? Do Labour carry on with austerity too because we "need to face the future"?
https://i.imgur.com/Tk7Pdjx.jpg
How are you figuring that the price increase is passed on to the employee in full, based solely on those leaflets?
thathappened
Yeah,
Put away the expert-led research ladies and gentleman, because this guy’s got 2 leaflets
Is that price increase not more a result of the reduced hours they are doing? I'm not strong on maths but the increase in price looks proportional to the reduced operating hours.
Lmao literally one data point that could be explained by a any other whimsical thought that comes into your head.
I heard that if you tell an anecdote LOUD ENOUGH it becomes scientific data.
It's a product of macro Vs micro thinking.
What's cumulative inflation over same period?
I'm not sure leaflets are quite the best way to judge this.
Or possibly since inflation went through the damn roof in the last few months
I had a moment in Iceland earlier and bought a tin of golden syrup.
Budget toast
Syrup version of this:
Treacle tart
Gingerbread.
You can use it as a replacement for sugar in many recipes. Half a spoon in a curry is nice.
Gravy
It's good for oaty biscuits, isn't it?
Pancakes?
Put a spoonful in porridge
If you can get some sponge cake you could heat the syrup up and pour it over. Oh you already suggested sponge pudding, sorry thats all I know.
https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/honeycomb-0
Why is freedom of movement a red line for him? Can someone explain why?
Left wing parties across Europe are increasingly going to be taking the lead driven by Denmark. It’s still amazing to me people don’t get it.
Keirs
It seems to me that our tax system simply isn't set up to give governments the ability to have public services adapt to high immigration flows. People who come to work on low wages - the biggest beneficiaries of free movement since they are least likely to be able to get work visas - pay very little in income tax because we have such a generous personal allowance and very low social security contribution payments (i.e. NI). In Germany, between public health insurance, unemployment insurance and pension contributions, you pay around a third of your income specifically to pay for healthcare, pensions and unemployment benefits. It doesn't cover the entire cost of these three expenses, but it does mean that extra pressure on e.g. healthcare will be offset by tax revenue to some degree.
Labour is finally representing working people
My local Tesco have got new cashier tills with a bizzare UX choice. They've moved the card machine away from the side you pack and over to the side where the conveyor belt is, so you have to walk back up to where the next person in line has advanced to pay. It used to be right by the packing area which was much more natural. Absolutely baffling.
Some of the self serve tescos in England have new software on it and it’s awful. Laggy, stuff doesn’t scan, whole thing crashes. Looks like they’ve developed their own software rather than licence then standard one that all other shops seem to use.
Have energy companies disabled self-service credit refunds across the board to try to trap more customer credit? I'm with Octopus and they always used to let you just request a refund on the site. Instead that page now says I can't, and it's probably because my meter readings are out of date. They're smart meters and I've checked there's data up to yesterday. I emailed them and they sorted a refund, but ignored my question of why I can't do it myself any more.
Went to Morrisons before and ended up buying a bottle of Advocat, which I've since demolished. Best thing about Christmas is becoming temporarily dependent on alcohol followed by a dry spell until it is warm enough for beer gardens again.
I do love some good pissy custard.
Just save the money and pour gin into an omelette next time. Though with those egg shortages we’re having, maybe advocaat is your solution already…
it's the 26th of November you aren't allowed to use Christmas as an excuse
Thread is dead today, so I’m gonna rant a little.
My council thought it would be a jolly good idea to get into property development, and it's now literal billions in debt. Local government makes our Westminster crackpots look like geniuses.
I think my favourite thing about Brexit is that it unravels the main plank of our foreign policy going back about as long as there's been an England to have a foreign policy. We don't want a European hegemon that can push us around. Well, we've completely and utterly fucked that one, as the EU is the European hegemon, and we're now on the outside.
Being a member doesn't mean it isn't pushing you around
I absolutely loved the episode of Yes Minister about Europe. Britain's primary objective is to keep Europe disunited and the best way to achieve that was being in the EU.
Can we get a headcount for people that voted Brexit on this sub?
I'm here, voted Brexit, and a Tory Brexit has gone exactly as I had supposed.
It's amazing how thin on the ground Brexiteers are these days. Almost as if it's a disaster.
Fewer and fewer recall voting for it as the days pass haha.
Probably worth checking the past subreddit surveys, I'd guess it'll have been asked there at some point.
https://twitter.com/patricksturg/status/1596176087280648192?s=46&t=xqVTMhAJJazmHGAMV86Xhw
https://twitter.com/NickSDickinson/status/1595380062932672512
I think we must be at the point where even if you're normally a tory voter you just think it's time for the other lot to have a go. What's the worst Labour could do in 4 years. (Actually don't answer that. Woke banks?)
Knowing a Tory voter who ripped up his membership when Truss got in, this is exactly his view. They need time out of power to rebuild and blood new talent.
Just spoke to two Tory to Labour switchers! That’s basically what they said.
Most Tories I know are ready to not vote this government because they feel they are too left wing amongst other considerations such as corruption/non-dom.
Broadband communism, nationalised sausages etc
People Polling have new numbers out:
I’m curious what the error margins are there, those swings seem quite big for a 5 day period where I don’t think much happened (18th-23rd). Unless I’m forgetting something!
Some corbynistas are fuming about Chris Curtis being selected as Milton Keynes North candidate.
Given the overwhelming vote for Curtis, it does seem a little stupid in retrospect to have blocked Townsend for what looked to be quite spurious reasons. He's very likely to have won anyway, as the much better candidate.
why are they specifically bothered?
There's a lot of talk of the Tory purge in 2019, and how that has seriously reduced the number of talented MPs in the party. But I think just as damaging to the current crop's quality is the way they've been conditioned to behave over 3 years of Boris. How can you spend 3 years regurgitating government lies and deflections, dodging every single question you're asked, criticising people for talking the country down, etc. and then be able to exercise the sort of critical thinking required of a minister?
People acting like the Tories weren't running on fumes before 2019 is sort of hilarious, given that they fucking foisted Brexit on the nation to try and quell their infighting and bleed to UKIP.
You can't, it's probably part of the reason why the Chancellor said he only accepts the forecasts that agree with him.
Thinking a bit about Stewart talking about how he thought that Labour had actually implemented police marching people to cashpoints to pay fines.
Worth noting fixed penalty notices are an actual thing though. Was surprised they didn’t discuss that.
Interesting to see that the London Fire Brigade story isn't getting any traction here. You'd think a report finding that one of the UK's big public institutions (with some 6,000 employees) was institutionally racist and misogynist would be a big deal...
I expect the primary concern for most people about the fire brigade is whether they continue to fight fires. As long as they continue to do that, a lot of people won't care too much about the rest.
Agreed! Maybe something to do with timing too? Someone submitted the article at like 9pm last night, around the end of the England game. Most of the front page looks like it was submitted earlier today. Maybe would have got more attention if it was submitted this morning.
A 'good guys can't be bad guys' vibe going on?
Football but The Sun, The Mirror and The Star all have the same main headline
Whenever you see someone defend the Russian regime's 'legitimate interests' remember this:
Amazing we don't hear more that indy ref 2014 was amplified by Russia