1. Yeah he probably fucked with like 95% of people who ere just streaming music or podcasts or whatever, and using their GPS, who were not looking at their phone to begin with, and then made ALL of them look at their phone. Not real bright.

  2. they tried this at a sister church to mine. they forgot they were a rural church and they have volunteer firefighters and also an ED doctor who are regular attenders and need to be contactable 24/7. it also messed with there wireless mics

  3. I've never heard this, although many old buildings unintentionally act as a faraday cage from their construction materials, actually putting in a jammer sounds like a very bad idea, there's a reason you shouldn't be interfering with mechanical devices you can inadvertently cause a lot of problems.

  4. I used to work for the wireless performance team in the South East for one of the major carriers. Churches, schools, private residences, etc. People have reasons to jam, and to amplify (poorly), which degrades the overall network experience for everyone. Relatively easy to narrow down the location, dispatch a field technician to make first contact to try to turn off their device. Repeat offenders get reported to the FCC.

  5. Reminds me of one time when I was talking to the owner of a business. I had to use the restroom and mentioned to him how nice it was (in comparison to the factory floor) and he said that they had just remodeled it. He said that the best part was that before the remodel, his guys spent way too much time in the bathroom and now they barely use it. The builders had used some sort of sheeting that I think had some sort of metal moisture barrier or something. He discovered that cell phones no longer worked in the bathroom. He was thrilled.

  6. My roof started leaking this spring so I hired a crew to tin the roof and put colored tin siding on the house so I wouldn't have to paint anymore.

  7. These types of physical barriers aren’t illegal, but jammers are. I’m pretty sure some theaters use physical barriers as well.

  8. What I don‘t understand is, why these jammers are not in regular use in every prison? As I read sometimes it seems that many illegal activities from inside prisons are organized that way.

  9. Imagine being in an active shooter situation or locked in for some other emergency, and you can't make a life saving call because your signal was blocked by some asshole.

  10. I feel that jamming a phone mid use will cause the user to look at the phone, confused and try to solve the problem. A task that is probably more dangerous than talking and driving.

  11. Exactly. This would achieve the opposite effect IMO. Phone doesn't work, so you start looking through your settings and keep trying to reconnect.

  12. He didn't do it to increase safety. He did it because people on their phones in the cars around him annoyed him. So he annoyed them.

  13. Some of the other instructors and I had joked about getting jammers or setting up the classrooms in Faraday cages to keep students on task.

  14. I recall having to inform a school district that was jamming signals to stop, before someone notified the FCC. Thank heavens they believed me.

  15. We had a senior project in engineering college to create a cell phone "sniffer" a teacher could use to detect cell signals within short range like a yard or two. Teacher instructs all students to turn phones completely off, then uses device to make sure nobody left theirs on.

  16. Jammers are a no-no, but passive Faraday cages are OK. For fire code reasons it won't be perfect, as doors/etc. will not be sealed, but it doesn't need to be.

  17. We had that at our college. Two biggest auditoriums had jammers that (could and would) be turned on during big exams.

  18. I'm sure if schools were just more engaging, less students would be on their phones. But that would require paying teachers better, so nevermind.

  19. Actively interfering will always be problematic because frequencies are sold / rented to companies and now you’re interfering with their business.

  20. Could you imagine being a student in a classroom and all of a sudden a school shooter is on campus but you cant use your cell phone to call in the police because of a cell phone jammer

  21. I like the door organizer technique I saw a high school using. Every student "checks in" their phone upon entry. All kids can see their own phone and know it's safe (clear plastic pantry organizer thing), but obviously none can actually be distracted by it.

  22. A Forfeiture Order now makes the full $48,000 payable within 30 days. The next FCC-related communication to Mr. Humphreys, if he does not respond to this one, may be a federal district court summons as the government attempts to collect the fine.

  23. Apparently they're behaving like a debt collector...instead of the IRS. Dude wouldn't be so nonchalant if they rightly put a lien on his house.

  24. I mean... It kinda makes sense. Usually fines like that are to force businesses to follow rules? So like, short of being able to bring criminal charges.... What are they going to do? Keep sending him strongly worded letters? Send him to collections? Hire a repo man?

  25. I would imagine he made himself left safe as everyone fucked with their phones trying to figure out why they weren’t working

  26. The guy who did this is like the people who break check: Mad about other drivers creating a dangerous situation.... So in response they stupidly create a far more dangerous situation.

  27. Exactly. Imagine assisting someone who just crashed and you can’t call emergency services because someone is stuck in a traffic jam and using a jammer? Or even if passing losing vital time not being able to call?

  28. How are you smart enough to be able to acquire a cell phone jammer, yet stupid enough to not realize that giving someone a dropped call / interrupting their service is going to distract other drivers MORE

  29. Jamming principles aren't that sophisticated, all you really need to jam is something that can output a signal with a higher power than whats being recieved. Anyone can buy one

  30. My guess is his method was technically backfiring. He wanted people to drive more safely around him but everytime he came near, any calls would cut out leading people to look at and focus on their phones. He was making people more distracted when he drove.

  31. He didn't randomize the broadcasts. He only really needs to interrupt a call every couple of minutes or so. Keeping it on continuously makes it easier to track and locate him. If your calls keep getting dropped, and your texts don't go through right away, you put the phone down until you're done driving, or you rage crash trying to fix it.

  32. Probably wasn't hard. Presumably, he would be going to work at the same time on a regular schedule, in the same vehicle, on the same route, and leaving at the same time, in the same vehicle, on the same route. It probably wouldn't be hard to realize this is happening in specific locations at specific times and to just watch the road for a few days with a phone you are keeping track of to see if it stops working, keeping track of what vehicles are passing by when it happens. That is even without other possible means of tracking it, the guy bragging to people, the workplace having phones and other things stop working when he gets close, and a number of other things that could possibly give it away.

  33. I feel as though this might have adverse effects. The drivers may become more distracted troubleshooting why their phones are malfunctioning.

  34. I worked with a guy who just hated people on cell phones, regardless of the situation. He had a little jammer thing that he could press to disrupt calls within 20 feet and he just used it to kill calls for the fuck of it.

  35. This is funny cause when my phone stops working while I'm driving I pay way more attention to it than I would have otherwise. He probably created more of a problem if anything

  36. I actually don’t believe it’s too hard for them to track this down. He was interfering with a nearby tower on his commute and they noticed that service was going down at regular times. Also jammers emit a lot in order to jam radio signals. It’s kinda like shining a bright light everywhere to blind the people around you.

  37. I've heard it described that they (and really the police in general) have the resources to solve practically any crime. It is just a matter of making it a priority.

  38. Wouldn't the drivers be more distracted when their phone stops working? This didn't affect those not on their phones.

  39. Nevermind that by disabling those phones you ensure the ones who were talking or using it while driving, but tried to be attentive, are now looking at the phone wondering why the call fell or something.

  40. Jamming all phones around you as you approach is the #1 way to cause distracted drivers with their phones.

  41. So instead of people being on their phones, he’d be surrounded by people looking at their phones, wondering what’s wrong with them. I think that would be more dangerous.

  42. That seems like a great way to get people to start messing with their phones mid drive to check the settings and see why it stopped working.

  43. I would think this would cause more issues then it would fix. Imagine all the dumb asses trying to fix their phones signal as they drive down the highway.

  44. That dumbass probably had a bunch of people fiddling their phones trying to get them to work instead of looking at the road.

  45. I always thought places like Best Buy had jammers on because it seems like every time I want to look up reviews/prices, my internet disappears.

  46. Wouldn't that just frustrate drivers more and make them pay attention to phones more to try and get it working, thus doing the opposite thing?

  47. I scrolled down looking for a mention of chaotic good. It seems like he had pure intentions. Didn’t exactly think it all the way through though

  48. Would have been instant karma if he got into a crash, had a completely treatable injury but still died because nobody could inform the authorities fast enough.

  49. the drivers were probably epically distracted by their phones not working right. The actions of the signal jammer created a far greater danger.

  50. My buddy used to have a radar gun that he took from his brother who was a police officer. The readout on how fast people were going was broken, but it still sent out the signal. He used to troll up and down the freeway and fire off the radar gun when he saw people with detectors on their dash.

  51. Great way to cause accidents, assholes. You're not stopping people from using their phones, you're STARTING people trying to fix and restart their phones because they're not working for some reason. Some people just need to ride the bus and stop pretending they're competent drivers. Would make my life so much easier.

  52. I’m telling you right now. If anything, for me that would make it worse. I’d be smacking my shit on the windows. The steering wheel. 😂😂😅😅

  53. FCC has the power over this issue because of access to 911. Prisons can't even jam, so cell phones have become a hot commodity. Bomb squads can't even jam without getting clearance from FCC, so they don't even ask.

  54. The carriers kept getting reports of dropped calls. When technicians started to investigate they narrowed it down and eventually caught him.

  55. If this wasn't illegal and I was back in the pre-GPS era of cell phones, I'd be interested in comparing radar-jammed highways to other highways and see if it ended up being safer.

  56. "Just stay strong honey, I'll stay on the phone with you until the ambulance comes. Just concentrate on the sound of my...wait, what the fuck?"

  57. I think this is an example of why vehicles need to advance so much to be self driving and fully autonomous without wireless communication to their cloud data (i.e., L3 and L4) L1 is like driver assist stuff like cruise control and crash avoidance, L2 is more aware of staying in lanes, warning the driver about hazards, basically advanced driver assist, L3 is, pretty much let go of the wheel but you better pay attention and be ready to drive when it disengages, and L4+ is completely self contained and does not require persistent connectivity; end to end hands off and sleep on the way. We have a long way to go because jammers aren’t going anywhere and they are easier and cheaper than ever to get.

  58. I feel like the ironic thing is wouldn’t people be fucking with their phones and distracted more if it’s acting up and randomly not working?

  59. Wouldn't that just make people more focused in their phone? Like if it just stops working they'll probably start tapping it furiously because they don't know why it's not working?

  60. I know it's 2022 but I still feel like cell phone jammers are still in the "spy" realm and not something civilians can get a hold of.

  61. Do wifi deauth attacks count as jamming? I assume not because the spectrum is not physically impacted. It's a disruption at the network layer. Deauth drops your connection to the access point, Beacon attacks generate spurious SSID advertisements to obfuscate the real SSID, Probe attacks clog up the Access Point with requests to join.

  62. Yes. §333 says you cannot "interfere with" radio communications; it does not limit that prohibition to RF noise. This isn't even an open question; the FCC fined Mariott $600k for using deauth attacks in 2013.

  63. To those saying that this guy was being selfish in that he was forcing people around him to lose connection on their phones. You shouldn't be using your phones while driving in the first place. It is dangerous and selfish to do so. So pot meet kettle.

  64. He was driving on i4 from Tampa to Orlando daily. I remember when it happened and it was big news. Schools also tied to use them at over point

  65. He is right though, I’d want fully attentive drivers around me too, it’s not me I worry about when I drive.

  66. Faraday cages dont interrupt the signal so it would be legal to do.. it just would be really expensive to build a theater like that

  67. I mean a movie theater could build a faraday cage around each theater room but it would be incredibly expensive. But legally they can it’s only active jamming which is illegal.

  68. Me too. Except i still want people to be able to get an emergency call from a loved one. So maybe maybe invent a device that puts all phones on a low vibrate

  69. I love this but I see the other side of the coin of people freaking out about why they’re phone stopped working thus creating distractions.

  70. I feel like people would be more likely to be distracted and fussing with their phones if they suddenly lost signal.

  71. They should have have some kind of jammer as standard equipment in every civilian vehicle. It starts jamming signal when the transmission is engaged.

  72. Lol that's not very well thought out. Someone isn't going to stop using their phone because the signal is gone. It will just make them more distracted trying to figure out the issue.

  73. A couple of years ago here in Germany the electronic retail chain "Media Markt", Germanys biggest electronics store chain, was caught having jammers in some of their stores because they have shitty prices and it became relatively normal for people to go there, look at stuff, try stuff out and then use the barcode scanning function in the amazon app to directly order it for a better price online. Highly illegal even here!

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