Some combo of a Rob/Parv/Tyson led coalition against a Tony/Sandra led coalition with Kim, Sophie, Jeremy, Yul in the middle or fitting in somewhere would have been the perfect post merge
The second her and Rob appeared on the same season together, their fates were sealed. Then you add how Rob has benefits as a meat shield, Amber landed herself on the same tribe as Sandra (who openly had a vendetta against her hubby) & Rob is weakened without Amber, it literally was a done deal
i feel like she don’t even try to break this perception, though. WAW could have been a great opportunity for her to stand up for herself and justify her status as a winner, but then she’s on eoe nearly the entire game, and then after the second battle back challenge when everyone gets their little segments, she basically says, “i only won All Stars because the jury hated me less than Rob, and I only came out here to help him try to win.” Like, what?
This feels like the single boot that could've made the biggest difference in the season because it probably improves the odds of a schemey Sophie/Kim/Yul/Sarah alliance running the show instead of the boring Tony/Sarah/Ben/Denise one we got
Honestly, I’m going to be eaten alive for this, but I would’ve liked to have seen a few of the 30s winners do better. As devastating as the old school pickoff was pre-merge, most of those players sans like Yul, Danni, and arguably Ethan were already bonafide legends, I would’ve like to see some of the newer winners carve out that legacy for themselves like Wendell and Nick.
Same, I honestly didn’t need to see any more of Rob and Sandra especially after seeing them in the previous season. Parvati has already played great games but someone like Michelle, or dare I say Ben, had more to prove on a returning season.
Season 20 ended with a much-debated Sandra win over Parvati. I would’ve loved for season 40 to end with the two of them activating their Wonder Twin powers to control the game and make it to the end. Then Parvati wins and they can comfortably share the crown together.
I know I’ll be downvoted but this is pretty much my reverse order, not a Ben win though. I was excited for winners at war for players like Michelle, Denise, and Adam. I’ve already seen Rob and Parvati play great but I was more excited to see one time winner/players have a second go.
I'd swap Nick, Denise, Ben, and Sarah with Ethan, Parv, Yul, and Sandra. The order they go out is pretty interchangeable, but having those 4 make final 7 would be enough for me to not even care about who ends up winning. I'd keep the rest of the boot order pretty much the same.
Ben, Nick, Adam, Danni, Sarah, Rob, Denise, Sandra, Ethan, Wendell, Tyson, Sophie, Natalie, Amber, Yul, Michelle, and Tony losing to Jeremy at final four fire making
i do not understand how people don’t like tony 😭 he played the greatest game of all time on WaW and that alone makes it a worthwhile season. i’m sorry i love ethan but players like him, danni, and amber were never gonna do anything
seeing the people we had not seen for a long time (Amber, Danni, Yul, Sophie, Parvati) make the deep game with some of the best newer winners (Tony, Natalie, Wendell) along with one or two underrated players make it deep (Michele).
I want Sarah out first, followed by Ben. After that I'm not too picky for a while. Then, for final 8, I want Tony, Rob, Tyson, Yul, Ethan, Sandra, Parvati, and Kim. Then let them fight it out. I don't really have a favorite for the winner, but seeing Sandra win for a 3rd time would be been absolutely epic.
Ben, Danni, Nick, Adam, Nat (as a tiebreaker rock draw), Wendell, Kim, Sandra (the same exact way she got voted out in the game), Tyson | Merge (Tyson returns) | here we have Sophie/Yul/Sarah/Tony, Rob/Amber/Tyson/Parv/Ethan, Michele/Jeremy, Denise. | post-merge to 2nd return: | Amber, Ethan, Denise, Sophie (exactly how it plays out in the episode), Yul, Jeremy, Sarah. || F5 EOE game: Yul returns||: Parvati (because she was 6th in CI, blindsided by a tony/Yul/Rob/Tyson f4 deal alongside a side deal with tony and Michele), Tyson (Rob knows but saves face and votes for Michele similar to Amanda’s play with Ozzy in his micro boot), Firemaking is Rob vs Yul after Michele wins immunity, Rob wins. F3 is Rob, Tony, Michele. Vote is a tie with Michele breaking the tie in whomever’s favor. Parvati is voted fan favorite because she would be out of the cast, Rob is given respect as someone who could actually win against experienced players, Tony’s still considered one of the greats.
Would've loved to see an Old School takeover until the merge, then a rebellion start to form, some idols played to oust a Rob or Tyson, someone like Jeremy or Wendell go on an Immunity run, and F3 be an old school, new school, and whatever school you want as the 3rd.
Boot order doesn’t matter as long as the greatest to ever play wins once again. Tony is on another level of play and deserves this win in every scenario.
Pre-Merge I'd ideally like to lose some of the characters that didn't really have a major impact on the season: Ben, Michele, Amber, Nick, Denise, Wendell, Dannii, Adam (who is heartbroken to miss the merge)
(Not in order but by stages) Pre-Merge: Ben, Nick, Amber, Danni, Denise, Sarah Merge: Yul, Tyson, Rob, Sandra, Tony, Sophie, Wendell, Jeremy, Natalie, & Ethan Final 3: Kim & Michele Winner: Parvati duh
Probably just having it end with a yul/Sophie/Michele final 3… Parv and Tony make it pretty far but get cut near the end for being big threats. Rob Sandra Amber still go early but Ben Denise adam do too
Idk I feel like any boot order for that season would be disappointing to some degree, I guess it might've been better had there not been such a recognizable trend tho. All of the old school players going out pre-merge (with the pre-HvV player that won a post-HvV season getting back in from the Edge, funny little coincidence) was kinda lame, it would've been cooler had it been a more even split. But like I said at the top, this is a list of winners, many of which we hadn't seen in over a decade: any of them going out earlier is gonna disappoint some group of fans.
If there was no EoE, I would've loved something like this, with a mix of old school and new school winners as the premerge boots with some old schoolers at the end and someone we hadn't seen a second time (and never expected to see again) winning:
20. Ben 19. Adam 18. Nick 17. Sarah Lacina 16. Wendell 15. Denise 14. Michele 13. Boston Rob 12. Sophie 11. Tony 10. Natalie 9. Yul 8. Amber 7. Tyson 6. Sandra 5. Danni 4. Jeremy Final 3 Parvati, Kim and Ethan
Some combo of a Rob/Parv/Tyson led coalition against a Tony/Sandra led coalition with Kim, Sophie, Jeremy, Yul in the middle or fitting in somewhere would have been the perfect post merge
This would've been epic!!!
Ufff that’s a dream season! Wow WAW!
This makes me sad because of what could've been
Going on the basis of a 13 person merge and this storyline materialising:
I was hoping Amber could’ve shined a bit because she’s overshadowed by Rob so much in the community.
Yes I would have loved for her to outlast him in the game
The second her and Rob appeared on the same season together, their fates were sealed. Then you add how Rob has benefits as a meat shield, Amber landed herself on the same tribe as Sandra (who openly had a vendetta against her hubby) & Rob is weakened without Amber, it literally was a done deal
this. needed her to make it all the way
i feel like she don’t even try to break this perception, though. WAW could have been a great opportunity for her to stand up for herself and justify her status as a winner, but then she’s on eoe nearly the entire game, and then after the second battle back challenge when everyone gets their little segments, she basically says, “i only won All Stars because the jury hated me less than Rob, and I only came out here to help him try to win.” Like, what?
I wanted to see Rob and Tyson on the same tribe, just to see what would have happened.
Tyson votes himself out again
A new school massacre
This!
What I like about this is that the strongest new school winners would survive
WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE SPENT MORE TIME WITH YUL. >: (
This feels like the single boot that could've made the biggest difference in the season because it probably improves the odds of a schemey Sophie/Kim/Yul/Sarah alliance running the show instead of the boring Tony/Sarah/Ben/Denise one we got
Yul
A finale of Parvati, Sandra, Tony, Yul, Tyson, and Kim would’ve been my ideal f6. Parv/Sandra/Tony final 3
PARV SANDRA TONY FINAL 3 WOULD HAVE BEEN GLORIOUS
If Rob had won this place would’ve been a madhouse so any order where he wins 😂
Imagine Romber both being in the final 3.
Even better - Rob and Amber make it to f3 and Amber wins
Tyson and Rob discussing starting a podcast during their F3 speech while Amber goes on to win again lmao
yep I would have LOVED to see that!
Adam successfully plays the podium as an idol, then whatever lol
That would have been awesome
What I love is that if Probst really wanted to, he could've just said "sure" and it becomes an idol.
Idc as long as yul wins and Ethan lasts long
Yup, Kim, and Ethan were my top three picks and I was so sad at the end.
Based
Everyone goes home at the same time, leaving only the GOAT Bob Crowley to win
Ben, Wendell, Danni, Adam, Natalie, Amber, Denise, Sarah, Michelle, Nick, Ethan, Jeremy, Kim, Rob, Tony, Tyson, Sandra
Omg ya I was thinking almost the same final 3
A single tear rolled through my face. What could have been.
This would have been great
20. Ben
It’s insane how all three of the most unpopular winners (Ben, Nick, Sarah) managed to scrape through to the final 7.
I wouls’ve loved to see more Amber, that’s all
Sara first, Ben 2nd then who cares
This.
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Swap them for literally any other winners tbh. Tho Ben has his moments
Sandra wins and no one can justifiably ever question her as the greatest player of all time (reddit still will debate it tho).
shes still the GOAT
I think the only true debate centers around her quitting. Ends all of her “I am the Queen” nonsense in most people’s minds
Yul gets 1st place. The rest is no concern to me
Reverse the one we got.
Natalie still makes ftc aha
All the new schoolers get the boot from the old schoolers with Rob, Tyson, Parvati and Amber at F4
Chills - that would’ve been beautiful
Honestly, I’m going to be eaten alive for this, but I would’ve liked to have seen a few of the 30s winners do better. As devastating as the old school pickoff was pre-merge, most of those players sans like Yul, Danni, and arguably Ethan were already bonafide legends, I would’ve like to see some of the newer winners carve out that legacy for themselves like Wendell and Nick.
Same, I honestly didn’t need to see any more of Rob and Sandra especially after seeing them in the previous season. Parvati has already played great games but someone like Michelle, or dare I say Ben, had more to prove on a returning season.
This like any boot order would have sucked watching and people dint like the boot order because of nostalgia goggles
20th Place: Ben
Reverse Tyson and Nick, and I’ll invest in this start up.
Yeah this is pretty spot on
Then perfect final 2.
I knew who’d be winning this list as soon as I saw Tony and Sandra premerge (I didn’t see the flair).
There's no way you would have had Michele that high without watching WAW how it already went down
Pre swap - old school takes out new school with help of Sophie/Kim/Denise
New school (seasons 25+) massacre pre-merge with the exception of Michele and Tony.
Season 20 ended with a much-debated Sandra win over Parvati. I would’ve loved for season 40 to end with the two of them activating their Wonder Twin powers to control the game and make it to the end. Then Parvati wins and they can comfortably share the crown together.
Yul, Sophie, Michele F3 and in that order (9-5-3)
This is honestly perfect
Wait I had the same final three lmao
Big fan of this one
Sophie winning, Sandra FMC loser (so she's still never voted out), Yul at least making the merge, Rob first boot.
Sandra was voted out in S34 'Game Changers'.
Sandra was voted out in Game Changers
There is no good boot order for WaW. It’s an incredible cast, somebody great will go home too early.
20. Ben
Anything that's not Tony/Ben/Sarah at the final 5. I love Tony but that trio/alliance was way too unbreakable.
As long as Tony wins I do not give a care who goes where
Came here to say it! Fucking GOAT
Ben
I know I’ll be downvoted but this is pretty much my reverse order, not a Ben win though. I was excited for winners at war for players like Michelle, Denise, and Adam. I’ve already seen Rob and Parvati play great but I was more excited to see one time winner/players have a second go.
keeping the more entertaining and more popular winners in for longer
I dig it
Granted there is a lot of bias in this
lol @ rob going first
Parv, Kim, Sandra final 3 would be goated
I'd swap Nick, Denise, Ben, and Sarah with Ethan, Parv, Yul, and Sandra. The order they go out is pretty interchangeable, but having those 4 make final 7 would be enough for me to not even care about who ends up winning. I'd keep the rest of the boot order pretty much the same.
Ben, Nick, Adam, Danni, Sarah, Rob, Denise, Sandra, Ethan, Wendell, Tyson, Sophie, Natalie, Amber, Yul, Michelle, and Tony losing to Jeremy at final four fire making
The one we got. How in the world did Tony get to the end with 0 votes
Honestly the boot order in reverse is perfect to me
i do not understand how people don’t like tony 😭 he played the greatest game of all time on WaW and that alone makes it a worthwhile season. i’m sorry i love ethan but players like him, danni, and amber were never gonna do anything
haters are always gonna hate; even Messi and LeBron have haters it’s inevitable especially from people who have accomplished nothing in their lives
i can acknowledge he plays a good game and still find him annoying to watch because i dont like his personality in anything more then small doses
I will change nothing at all. Maybe i will give Sandra, Yul and Adam a better placement but i'm satisfied with how the season end and how it plays.
I would have liked to see a Natalie parvati michele final 3 or even Sandra
ben
20th. Ben , everything after that is whatever
20) Kim
Can I vote off this Sub first?
I think yul is the one people are most mad about maybe Parv too but the other eh
seeing the people we had not seen for a long time (Amber, Danni, Yul, Sophie, Parvati) make the deep game with some of the best newer winners (Tony, Natalie, Wendell) along with one or two underrated players make it deep (Michele).
My perfect season would have been more new school going out at the start, with an outcome along the lines of (the final placements):
Love all three girls in this FTC
I want Sarah out first, followed by Ben. After that I'm not too picky for a while. Then, for final 8, I want Tony, Rob, Tyson, Yul, Ethan, Sandra, Parvati, and Kim. Then let them fight it out. I don't really have a favorite for the winner, but seeing Sandra win for a 3rd time would be been absolutely epic.
I actually liked the boos order
Ben, Denise, Sarah as the first 3 boots and then i really don’t care, the rest of the season would be way better
not exact but just general phases of the game
Starting from 20th:
Pre-Merge: Ben, Sarah, Nick, Danni, Adam, Denise, Wendell
20. Denise
Reverse
Ben, Danni, Nick, Adam, Nat (as a tiebreaker rock draw), Wendell, Kim, Sandra (the same exact way she got voted out in the game), Tyson | Merge (Tyson returns) | here we have Sophie/Yul/Sarah/Tony, Rob/Amber/Tyson/Parv/Ethan, Michele/Jeremy, Denise. | post-merge to 2nd return: | Amber, Ethan, Denise, Sophie (exactly how it plays out in the episode), Yul, Jeremy, Sarah. || F5 EOE game: Yul returns||: Parvati (because she was 6th in CI, blindsided by a tony/Yul/Rob/Tyson f4 deal alongside a side deal with tony and Michele), Tyson (Rob knows but saves face and votes for Michele similar to Amanda’s play with Ozzy in his micro boot), Firemaking is Rob vs Yul after Michele wins immunity, Rob wins. F3 is Rob, Tony, Michele. Vote is a tie with Michele breaking the tie in whomever’s favor. Parvati is voted fan favorite because she would be out of the cast, Rob is given respect as someone who could actually win against experienced players, Tony’s still considered one of the greats.
We need a Rob vs Tony showdown, a Parvati vs Kim showdown, Yul... Yul, Ethan.... a ton of things
As long as Ben is out early... I think Ben is definitely a good guy but god I hate him on survivor
Ethan/Yul/Kim F3- to me doesn’t matter who wins.
Tony was the rightful winner; he played a perfect game and is the quintessential Survivor
Idgaf about the boot order but Parv Nat Sophie Michele final 4
Ben, Sarah, Danni, Adam, Wendell, Denise, Sandra, Amber, Rob, Yul, Nick, Tony, Jeremy, Natalie, Kim, Tyson, Sophie, Michele, Ethan, Parvati
Sandra becoming the first 3 time winner would fit into my fantasy
Ben, Adam, Nick, Sarah, Wendell, Ethan, Danni, Rob, Jeremy, Natalie, Sandra, Tyson, Denise, Amber, Yul, Kim, Sophie, Michele, Parvati, Tony.
Natalie before Amber/Yul/Denise. Gurrl… No.
Parvati Sandra Tony final 3 but Parvati gets 1st and Sandra gets 2nd. Tony is the Russell this time
Yul
Final 10: LEGENDS (and Ben bc he’s a personal fav)
XXth: Natalie
Adding in Brian Heidik and then he absolutely runs the entire game like a boss once again.
From the first boot : Ben, Sarah, Adam, Rob, Sophie, Danni, Denise, Tony, Tyson, Wendell, Nick, Amber, Natalie, Yul, Kim, Jeremy, Sandra
Would've loved to see an Old School takeover until the merge, then a rebellion start to form, some idols played to oust a Rob or Tyson, someone like Jeremy or Wendell go on an Immunity run, and F3 be an old school, new school, and whatever school you want as the 3rd.
Hot take, arguing over boot order is one of the weirdest things this fanbase loves to do.
Boot order doesn’t matter as long as the greatest to ever play wins once again. Tony is on another level of play and deserves this win in every scenario.
Pre-Merge I'd ideally like to lose some of the characters that didn't really have a major impact on the season: Ben, Michele, Amber, Nick, Denise, Wendell, Dannii, Adam (who is heartbroken to miss the merge)
Reverse.
(Not in order but by stages) Pre-Merge: Ben, Nick, Amber, Danni, Denise, Sarah Merge: Yul, Tyson, Rob, Sandra, Tony, Sophie, Wendell, Jeremy, Natalie, & Ethan Final 3: Kim & Michele Winner: Parvati duh
Yul
Regardless of boot order, Sandra can only either win or last until Day 16.
2 for 2.
I’ll be honest, I don’t have an issue with the boot order we got. I was happy just to see the old schoolers back at all
Probably just having it end with a yul/Sophie/Michele final 3… Parv and Tony make it pretty far but get cut near the end for being big threats. Rob Sandra Amber still go early but Ben Denise adam do too
Reverse the boot order and we are good.
I really would’ve been fine with the boot order reversed
Danni, as our 2nd two-time winner
Alphabetical
As long as Tony still wins I really don't care if I'm being honest
Idk I feel like any boot order for that season would be disappointing to some degree, I guess it might've been better had there not been such a recognizable trend tho. All of the old school players going out pre-merge (with the pre-HvV player that won a post-HvV season getting back in from the Edge, funny little coincidence) was kinda lame, it would've been cooler had it been a more even split. But like I said at the top, this is a list of winners, many of which we hadn't seen in over a decade: any of them going out earlier is gonna disappoint some group of fans.
Any order where Tyson wins
Nobody, nobody, nobody etc etc . Final 5 everybody votes for who deserves to stay in the game. Can’t vote for yourself. Ties draw rocks.
I just wanted to see Danni her footing, Amber to be a hero(but she did get her hero moment, she had me bawling), and Ben/Nick going out 1&2 lol
Instead of the old schoolers all going pre-merge atleast 4-5 of them making merge
Ideally for me..
20) Ben
Sele Pre merge boots:
Rob/Tyson/Parv/Ethan should’ve been the rival merge faction against Tony/Sarah/Sandra
the perfect boot order would be no one getting voted out ever
Ben first boot, Sandra winner
would've liked to see Sandra, parv, Ethan, and yul make it farther instead of like ben and Denise who laid down for Tony
Sandra to win again to become a 3 time champion because the queen stays queen
Ben first boot no edge
20 - Ben (instead of Nat)
Was really hoping to see Tony/Boston Rob and Parvati/Sarah on the same tribe
I don’t really care for the full boot order I just would’ve like the first boots to be Michelle and Ben
If there was no EoE, I would've loved something like this, with a mix of old school and new school winners as the premerge boots with some old schoolers at the end and someone we hadn't seen a second time (and never expected to see again) winning:
Idk what most of it would look like, but I do know that it would have Ethan winning
Almost anything besides what we got tbh
20. Ben 19. Adam 18. Nick 17. Sarah Lacina 16. Wendell 15. Denise 14. Michele 13. Boston Rob 12. Sophie 11. Tony 10. Natalie 9. Yul 8. Amber 7. Tyson 6. Sandra 5. Danni 4. Jeremy Final 3 Parvati, Kim and Ethan