Yeah, I mildly criticized Israel on worldnews and got permabanned. I guess you can mention the plight of any marginalized group on Earth on this site except Palestinians. Which I guess means Israel is great and can do no wrong!
I know this is sarcasm, but for all the crazy shit about the Trump admin, I do think we will look back at how he was able to broker normalization agreements between Israel and several Gulf states as a turning point in the history of the region.
Ah yes, the famous recursive refugee status where your children and their children's children will be refugees forever and ever regardless of where you live, your dual citizenship, who you marry... Bravo to the UN for that one. Heck even billionaires in the US can be Palestinian refugees for generations and multiply, you just need to marry one. I'm wondering, is there since 1948 another people on this planet to whom this was granted to? Also, the famous "refugee camps" today with their shopping malls, supermarkets, hotels, restaurants, SUVs, gold markets, really sad.
As soneone who served in the ODF and had to collaborate on something with Egypt, ive been told by an Egyptian soldier "here, unlike in israel, they wont even try to do anything because they know what will happen. we can react however we want and the world will not even blink towards us. if you even defend urself you will be judged". that pretty much summs up the reality.
In 2012 Egypt went into Gaza unannounced, bulldozed loads of house, etc. in order to build a moat along the border. I don't see them protesting that...
If theyvwere government officials, maybe. But they are citizens representing their country and then using their platform to support an oppressed and villanized people.
How odd to consider that in the years between 1948 and 1967, when Egypt ruled Gaza and Jordan ruled the West Bank, neither country showed the slightest interest in creating an independent Palestinian State.
No, no don't be silly. Everyone was super nice to the Palestinians till Israel showed up. It's all Israel's fault. If Israel wasn't so mean to Palestine they wouldn't have to throw their gays out of windows or treat their women like property. Palestine would be a utopian paradise if Israel would just grant their polite request and just disappear off the face of the earth.
Wasn’t Gaza part of Egypt and the Gazans once Egyptians? Isn’t Egypt’s refusal to take it back and refusal to let them in part of the reason they now have no country of their own?
It's actually a strategy to put pressure on Israel, they don't give 2 fucks about the Palestinians and their imaginary state, as a matter of fact Ismail Haniyeh is now a billionaire living the life in Qatar, he comes back and leaves Gaza every once in a while to say hi and "death to Israel". Lol, what a shit show. Even the Fatah and the Palestinian Authority have no intention to build a Palestinian state, it's all cash flow nowadays, business as usual. Abu Mazen is furnishing his $50M jet and relaxing in his billionaire mansion with all those humanitarian aids, just keep the cameras rollin on the poor Palestinians. What a scam.
Egypt? The country that forcibly expelled their entire Jewish population, many who could not get citizenship anywhere so they were forced to move to Israel? That Egypt?
But if any Arab countries actually helped the Palestinians then how would they be able to hate Israel? I'm being a smartass but it's also true. Part of the reason, not a major part but a significant one nonetheless, that the Palestinians are disenfranchised is that their so called sympathizers do not actually wish to materially improve their conditions. It's much easier to just keep on hating the Jews.
Many people in the comments pointing out Egypt does not treat Palestinians particularly well (as in ‘either’, in direct comparison to Israel). The thought has not occurred that these Egyptians, in lifting up the flag of another country besides their own, might be just as much protesting their own country’s policy as much as any other country’s policy. The Israeli competitor next to them has somehow made it so this has to be Egypt (the government) vs Israel (the government), and not two competitors in support of Palestine irregardless of which government is against Palestine and how.
lol, lightly holding a flag up at a wrestling tourney is about all the help Egypt is going to give Palestine. They have no love for their starving muslim brothers, just walls and words
what a shitshow of a comment section, its been a great excuse for people to express their unmoderated hatred of egyptians, palestinians, and jews. Y'all are something else, should probably get locked now
And because they care about Palestinians SO much, for their next stunt surely they will petition their own government to treat Palestianians better, right?
This. Arab countries treat the Palestinians like shit. They are a proxy for a fight against the west. They just let them live in squalor while they ply their own population with sympathy for their cause, doing nothing whatsoever to improve it.
If Egypt loves Palestine so much why don't they just take the Gaza Strip any of the thousands of times Israel has offered it? And why do they prohibit Palestinian immigrants across their border?
Don't think it's the government that's putting them up to this. Egyptians have been arrested for showing Palestinian solidarity in the past at sporting events (
Because everyone who tried to ally w the Palestinian militants got burned by them. Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, all regretted giving them safe haven.
That part! We can all agree any militant government is bad but the current choice is a country with amazing healthcare and education who support LGBTQ+ rights more than any other country near it..... Or a country that openly expressed the want to kill all Jews, stone women, and hang LGBTQ+ people. It's amazing how much antisemitism clouds peoples logic.
Hilarious Irony since Egypy and Jordan held palestinian territories and done absolutely nothing. When they tried to help, they didnt let the palestinians form their own country
It's slightly bothersome that it seems to be a print of the flag on a slightly oversized sheet of fabric. I mean I get it was probably a short notice thing but lol
The Egyptian government are under the thumb of the USA and receive the second largest annual foreign aid package after Israel. However, a vast number of the Egyptian populace oppose how Israel came to be and the well documented atrocities they continue to commit. It’s not a complicated issue, debate and discussion is just heavily silenced and censored under the guise of “antisemitism” The reason behind the censorship is the complicated issue. Both are worth looking into
Honestly that's tacky. Just bc he's from Israel doesn't mean he supports what is happening, it just feels like they're attacking him for something out of his control imo
It’s funny because Egypt is just as guilty for Palestine as Israel is. Open your borders, Egypt. Let them in instead of treating the area as a dumping ground for your “undesirables” and blaming your neighbors for the condition of the yard.
Egypt controlled Gaza until 1967. In the peace talks with Israel, they demanded the Sini Peninsula back, but not Gaza. Tells you everything that you need to know.
You know what would be nice? Not raising any flags at all. I do so dislike this intrinsic nationalistic dick measuring contest that the world seems stuck on. Nothing on those guys themselves, but I do dislike the global culture behind attributing victories to a country, rather than the individual.
If Israel didn’t fund USA and vise versa there would be a lot more talk of atrocity out there (I’m not picking Israel, Saudi and many middle eastern nations fall into this)
Isn’t that what y’all want? Everybody getting along? Looks pretty friendly to me…but makes me wonder why u used the word against? Id think the less enticing words would be ”along with”
People have no idea how bad it is over there. They cover up so much. No group of people should be treated how the Palestinians are being treated. Good for you Egypt.
Maybe if they stopped shooting rockets at civilians in the country next to them they wouldn’t get rockets shot back? They should try that sometime since they haven’t tried it yet.
Man wouldn't it be neat if Egypt or other Arab nations did what Europeans did after WW2, and actually accepted refugees and granted them citizenship instead of using them as pawns in a war against the Jews?
Amd where did you get the idea that Egypt doesn't already do that? We have large populations of Iraqis, Syrians, and Palestinians. Most of them are not documented as refugees because they are simply allowed to live, work, and study in Egypt without needing an official refugee status.
This comment section is where people from privileged countries go to take sides, as if they’ve actually experienced the terrible shit going on between both of these countries 😬😬😬
Yes! Free them from Hamas! Free the women and lgbtq! And the children being used as pawns instead of being given a chance to grow in good health and get a solid education!
That's excellent. One day people will learn of the atrocities that Israel has committed against Palestine 🇵🇸 - Israel is a terrorist state. And you'd be hard pressed not to be sickened by all Israel has done in its murderous past
What competition is this?
It's from the
Judo, I think.
Abrahamic religions
Damn this comment section got absolutely nuked
Yeah, I mildly criticized Israel on worldnews and got permabanned. I guess you can mention the plight of any marginalized group on Earth on this site except Palestinians. Which I guess means Israel is great and can do no wrong!
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5hrs and still not locked. Impressive.
Well I can sort by controversial...
Are you on mobile? I’m convinced they removed the sorting in mobile or at least the accessibility of it is hindered.
They moved it on mobile. It’s at the top of the screen now by the profile guy and the three dots
Mine works. Or maybe it doesn't because most comments there are not anywhere near as unhinged as I thought they'd be.
ooooohhh boy put on you're hazmat suits cos we're going to controversial.
On every post about Israel and Palestine, the only thing I learn is that I know even less about the conflict than I thought I did.
laughs in sort by new
Reddit comment sections are just morphing into YouTube ones.
At least we don’t have “Can we appreciate?” comments everywhere yet
You really think Reddit and YouTube have separate demographics?
I’m sure the armchair geopolitical commenters on Reddit won’t have anything to comment about this.
I thought Jared Kushner solved this conflict? I’m feeling out of the loop…
I think I’ll add conflicts Jared Kushner has solved to the list of the worlds shortest books.
I know this is sarcasm, but for all the crazy shit about the Trump admin, I do think we will look back at how he was able to broker normalization agreements between Israel and several Gulf states as a turning point in the history of the region.
On a totally unrelated note, how does Egypt treat Palestinian refugees?
Egypt does not so much accept refugees as create them.
They kicked them out of Egypt
They’ve demolished every Palestinian home on their border. I can’t remember when they last kept their border crossing with Gaza open for realsies.
Just like how pharaoh of the old does.
Shhhhh. No Jews, no news! You have to blame the Jews!
Also how do Egypt and Palestine treat women?
Ah yes, the famous recursive refugee status where your children and their children's children will be refugees forever and ever regardless of where you live, your dual citizenship, who you marry... Bravo to the UN for that one. Heck even billionaires in the US can be Palestinian refugees for generations and multiply, you just need to marry one. I'm wondering, is there since 1948 another people on this planet to whom this was granted to? Also, the famous "refugee camps" today with their shopping malls, supermarkets, hotels, restaurants, SUVs, gold markets, really sad.
the Egyptian government’s treatment of Gazans is especially deplorable. as you may know already, Gaza is commonly known to be the
let's put it this way: gay Palestinians live in Israel and nowhere else in the region
Not too well
Those two particular Egyptians have solidarity with the Palestinians.
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As soneone who served in the ODF and had to collaborate on something with Egypt, ive been told by an Egyptian soldier "here, unlike in israel, they wont even try to do anything because they know what will happen. we can react however we want and the world will not even blink towards us. if you even defend urself you will be judged". that pretty much summs up the reality.
Doesn't Egypt also blockade Gaza so this is basically pandering.
In 2012 Egypt went into Gaza unannounced, bulldozed loads of house, etc. in order to build a moat along the border. I don't see them protesting that...
Yes. Hamas and other Palestinean beligerents have been causing a ton of trouble for Egypt for years.
Yes, but leftists will not care. Neither will the Islamists.
Yeah but these kids arent Egypt the are Egyptians. The can suport the plight of Palestinians even if there government doesnt
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Egypt is one of the world's worst dictatorships. It does not represent its people, and would fall immediately without US support
If theyvwere government officials, maybe. But they are citizens representing their country and then using their platform to support an oppressed and villanized people.
How odd to consider that in the years between 1948 and 1967, when Egypt ruled Gaza and Jordan ruled the West Bank, neither country showed the slightest interest in creating an independent Palestinian State.
The Palestinians also had less rights under the Egyptian occupation in Gaza than the Palestinians have if they go to Israel today.
No, no don't be silly. Everyone was super nice to the Palestinians till Israel showed up. It's all Israel's fault. If Israel wasn't so mean to Palestine they wouldn't have to throw their gays out of windows or treat their women like property. Palestine would be a utopian paradise if Israel would just grant their polite request and just disappear off the face of the earth.
I really feel like this was not our of concern over the plight of people and more about "owning the libs" type of thing.
Wasn’t Gaza part of Egypt and the Gazans once Egyptians? Isn’t Egypt’s refusal to take it back and refusal to let them in part of the reason they now have no country of their own?
Yup, but that part of history is conveniently ignored.
Ya, basically any criticism of Israel from Egypt is a pretty staggering level of hypocrisy
The West Bank was once part of Jordan and they REALLY don’t want its refugees which also makes no sense
It's actually a strategy to put pressure on Israel, they don't give 2 fucks about the Palestinians and their imaginary state, as a matter of fact Ismail Haniyeh is now a billionaire living the life in Qatar, he comes back and leaves Gaza every once in a while to say hi and "death to Israel". Lol, what a shit show. Even the Fatah and the Palestinian Authority have no intention to build a Palestinian state, it's all cash flow nowadays, business as usual. Abu Mazen is furnishing his $50M jet and relaxing in his billionaire mansion with all those humanitarian aids, just keep the cameras rollin on the poor Palestinians. What a scam.
99% of comments: “omg comments gonna be a war zone” 1% of comments: war zone
Also Egypt: "make sure our border with Palestine is gated, walled, and closed."
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These 2 don't represent the Egyptian government
Okay. Clearly these 2 Egyptians do.
Kinda feel bad for the Israeli guy. It's not like he's inheritantly the cause. He just represents the country in a sport he loves.
Shouldnt feel bad for him.
If Egypt loves the Palestinians so much, they might want to end their blockade on Gaza.
Egypt? The country that forcibly expelled their entire Jewish population, many who could not get citizenship anywhere so they were forced to move to Israel? That Egypt?
These are Egyptians not Egypt itself. People can live in a country and support a cause that their own country does not.
Egypt doesn’t love Palestinians they just hate the Jews
The one thing the leadership of Arab countries hates most are other Arabs
Yes, these two Judo players should just go and end the blockade which they totally have the power to do
But if any Arab countries actually helped the Palestinians then how would they be able to hate Israel? I'm being a smartass but it's also true. Part of the reason, not a major part but a significant one nonetheless, that the Palestinians are disenfranchised is that their so called sympathizers do not actually wish to materially improve their conditions. It's much easier to just keep on hating the Jews.
I think it’s more of a fuck Israel, than pro Palestine. Fuck Israel, is a middle eastern past time.
If Egypt actually cared about the Palestinians then they'd open their borders to them.
Interesting. Doesn’t Gaza border Egypt? You would think they would allow them to cross the border etc… or you know history
Egyptians not knowing their own political history.
A yes the always friendly Egyptians. In juni ‘67 they had another great idea..
How big is the Jewish population in Egypt again?
Not proud to be Egyptian maybe.
Many people in the comments pointing out Egypt does not treat Palestinians particularly well (as in ‘either’, in direct comparison to Israel). The thought has not occurred that these Egyptians, in lifting up the flag of another country besides their own, might be just as much protesting their own country’s policy as much as any other country’s policy. The Israeli competitor next to them has somehow made it so this has to be Egypt (the government) vs Israel (the government), and not two competitors in support of Palestine irregardless of which government is against Palestine and how.
Never seen someone hold up a Palestinian flag when they’re standing next to a Brazilian
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I think the fact that they’re both literally wearing the Egyptian flag on their backs kinda pokes a major hole in everything you just said.
Narrator: They're not
Yes I'm sure these teenagers are well-versed in international relations. It's just a photo op.
The Israeli competitor “has made it somehow” that?
Uh, Egypt doesn't exactly have a friendly history with Israel either.
lol, lightly holding a flag up at a wrestling tourney is about all the help Egypt is going to give Palestine. They have no love for their starving muslim brothers, just walls and words
It’s virtue signaling
what a shitshow of a comment section, its been a great excuse for people to express their unmoderated hatred of egyptians, palestinians, and jews. Y'all are something else, should probably get locked now
And because they care about Palestinians SO much, for their next stunt surely they will petition their own government to treat Palestianians better, right?
This. Arab countries treat the Palestinians like shit. They are a proxy for a fight against the west. They just let them live in squalor while they ply their own population with sympathy for their cause, doing nothing whatsoever to improve it.
Also didn’t Egypt start a war with Israel in the 50s and the 70s getting their shit pushed in both times.
They live in a dictatorship run by an American backed general so if they do this, they will most likely get thrown in jail
Well if Egypt went 1-2 that’s better than any wars they tried against Israel……
If Egypt loves Palestine so much why don't they just take the Gaza Strip any of the thousands of times Israel has offered it? And why do they prohibit Palestinian immigrants across their border?
Don't think it's the government that's putting them up to this. Egyptians have been arrested for showing Palestinian solidarity in the past at sporting events (
This redditor has figured out that these two atheletes are actually the country of Egypt.
Ironic since Egypt treats the Gazan worse than Israelis do at times.
Are they mad that they lost a 6v1 war?
Bro that war always confuses the shit out of me
Forever and ever
I mean if Egyptians are so worried about the Palestinians, why don’t they just open up their border and let the Palestinians more access into Egypt?
Because everyone who tried to ally w the Palestinian militants got burned by them. Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, all regretted giving them safe haven.
here before 🔒
Congratulations on being another run of the mill cringy redditor!
update, still no 🔒
Right, a lot of people could make this point, but Egypt's record with Palestinians isn't much better than Israel.
That and Egypt trying to destroy Israel several times since it became a nation makes this statement pretty ugly
It’s actually a lot worse, I mean as far as straight murdering any of them that come near their border goes
I don't have a dog in the hunt, but somehow feel this exact display would be tolerated in Israel but not in Palestine.
Imagine if these athletes were women. Or lgbtq.
That part! We can all agree any militant government is bad but the current choice is a country with amazing healthcare and education who support LGBTQ+ rights more than any other country near it..... Or a country that openly expressed the want to kill all Jews, stone women, and hang LGBTQ+ people. It's amazing how much antisemitism clouds peoples logic.
Didn't Egypt basically use Gaza as a human shield during the war? They kept Palestinians segregated too.
Hilarious Irony since Egypy and Jordan held palestinian territories and done absolutely nothing. When they tried to help, they didnt let the palestinians form their own country
My father is Israeli so im abot biased, but i think Palestine should be a fully recognised country
what a great example of how the Palestinian people's suffering is weaponized against Israel, even by the same people causing that suffering
It truly is.
Egypt totally cares about Palestinians. That’s why they could have made everyone in Gaza an Egyptian
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Should have kept the Sinai
Poor Israeli guy....
I’m sure plenty of Russian athletes felt the same.
It's slightly bothersome that it seems to be a print of the flag on a slightly oversized sheet of fabric. I mean I get it was probably a short notice thing but lol
Ok
This website probably wouldn't be able to find Egypt on a map
Didn't Egypt blow up tunnels into Gaza?
The Egyptian government are under the thumb of the USA and receive the second largest annual foreign aid package after Israel. However, a vast number of the Egyptian populace oppose how Israel came to be and the well documented atrocities they continue to commit. It’s not a complicated issue, debate and discussion is just heavily silenced and censored under the guise of “antisemitism” The reason behind the censorship is the complicated issue. Both are worth looking into
nice to see the comments displaying their full hatred towards Jews, Palestinians and Egyptians
true equality is hating everyone equally /s
i wonder how many bot accounts are fighting each other in this thread
Honestly that's tacky. Just bc he's from Israel doesn't mean he supports what is happening, it just feels like they're attacking him for something out of his control imo
Free Palestine!!! From Hamas, and maybe we can get some sanity from the region.
Cringe. Egypt as a country has never done anything to help anyways.
It’s funny because Egypt is just as guilty for Palestine as Israel is. Open your borders, Egypt. Let them in instead of treating the area as a dumping ground for your “undesirables” and blaming your neighbors for the condition of the yard.
Egypt controlled Gaza until 1967. In the peace talks with Israel, they demanded the Sini Peninsula back, but not Gaza. Tells you everything that you need to know.
It feels so childish downvoting/upvoting comments but it's also so much fun!
You know what would be nice? Not raising any flags at all. I do so dislike this intrinsic nationalistic dick measuring contest that the world seems stuck on. Nothing on those guys themselves, but I do dislike the global culture behind attributing victories to a country, rather than the individual.
If Israel didn’t fund USA and vise versa there would be a lot more talk of atrocity out there (I’m not picking Israel, Saudi and many middle eastern nations fall into this)
Can't they like, not get political during condecoration
Here before the lock 😂
If people in the comments are pissed about this, wait till the Palestinian flag gets raised at the World Cup.
Anti-Semitism is only wrong when it’s celebrities apparently.
Armchair international diplomats inbound
They're still salty over the 6 day war ass whooping they got
Peace for both
Based
Not only does the Egyptian government not care about the Palestinians, it doesn’t care about Egyptians.
Isn’t that what y’all want? Everybody getting along? Looks pretty friendly to me…but makes me wonder why u used the word against? Id think the less enticing words would be ”along with”
I like it when i think about one of the 1st or 2nd place guy beat the Israeli guy in one of the semifinals.
so now we switched again and don’t like israel?
What’s the purpose of this?
Damn! Why??
People have no idea how bad it is over there. They cover up so much. No group of people should be treated how the Palestinians are being treated. Good for you Egypt.
Man last I checked Palestinians in the Gaza strip have an easier time getting into Israel than they do Egypt
Then why doesn’t Egypt open its borders with Gaza?!?
Have you been to Egypt? Have you been to Egypt as an openly gay person? Someone who opposes the government? Someone who criticizes Islam?
Totally agree. Palestinians are legit suffering, it’s very sad.
Maybe if they stopped shooting rockets at civilians in the country next to them they wouldn’t get rockets shot back? They should try that sometime since they haven’t tried it yet.
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Why Would You Say Something So Controversial Yet So Brave?
Like shooting rockets from schools and hospitals into civilian cities.
I don’t even care about the politics behind it. Hatred will always be our greatest enemy.
Man wouldn't it be neat if Egypt or other Arab nations did what Europeans did after WW2, and actually accepted refugees and granted them citizenship instead of using them as pawns in a war against the Jews?
Amd where did you get the idea that Egypt doesn't already do that? We have large populations of Iraqis, Syrians, and Palestinians. Most of them are not documented as refugees because they are simply allowed to live, work, and study in Egypt without needing an official refugee status.
Isn’t Egypt holding Gaza under blockade?
Israel is gonna play the victim 😅
Egyptians messing with Jews rarely ends well.
This comment section is where people from privileged countries go to take sides, as if they’ve actually experienced the terrible shit going on between both of these countries 😬😬😬
So…are you in a privileged country or not? Almost feel like your comment is going to disappear in a puff of logic.
Inb4 🔒 also go palestine 🇵🇸
Maybe Palestine should try holding an election.
Every other country disagrees with America about Isreal. They know its an oppressive regime.
That’s…not true. Israel has peace treaties with many countries including Arab ones and including Egypt.
Good. Free Palestine!
From what?
So sports now is also politics, Great! (BTW, Egypt’s border with Gaza is 1000 times tighter than the Israeli border 😂)
Right to represent goes both ways but I guess now that's an issue
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Great pic. Free Palestine!
From Hamas❤
Yes free Palestine! Looks at Egyptian blockade
Idk mate, last people to own the land were British, let's give it to them
From Hamas?
Yes! Free them from Hamas! Free the women and lgbtq! And the children being used as pawns instead of being given a chance to grow in good health and get a solid education!
Well they probably shouldn't have tried invading and destroying Israel twice.
W Egyptians Free my Palestinians
Egypt isn't free. Nor is Syria, Turkey or Iran. And definitely not Saudi Arabia or Qatar
Ah yes get the random kid I’m sure that’ll help
That's excellent. One day people will learn of the atrocities that Israel has committed against Palestine 🇵🇸 - Israel is a terrorist state. And you'd be hard pressed not to be sickened by all Israel has done in its murderous past
Can you tell me some atrocities
Palestine is a terrorist state too though. They're not the good guys here
Defending the rights of its citizens to live safely in peace. How atrocious.
So are they not Egyptians? Don't get me wrong I just you're supposed to raise your own flag in such competitions
As if Egypt gives a shit about Palestine. They could open their borders just for starters if they actually care.
Bad showmanship from Egypt. It’s one of the worst places to live with regards to human rights.
They had a budget for only one flag
And you don't have a budget for glasses, cause clearly they got a flag each wrapped around them
Let’s see these clowns say a word of criticism about anything in Egypt. ** edit spelling **
Use your children as suicide bombers many times in the name of Allah and become the victim. Just wow.
Yup, reddit got this one wrong. When you start siding with a country no better than Iran or Qatar, then you need to reevaluate your ethics.
They are raising it against Isreal and its apartheid system. Not against the individual Judo master.