That's nothing. Stafford is on pace for like 43 interceptions this year. Truly historic, indeed.

He’ll get lasik surgery in the off-season and cut that down by half, no worries.

It’s time for Jamies Winston to shine.

Wait what the fuck? Did he just give up after that SB win? lmao

It’s like a Home Run race but with quarterbacks

yeah well I'm on pace for 8 pancakes and 20 slices of bacon by dinner time

Also while rule changes and the 17th game are obviously both contributing factors, defenses are playing insanely well against every other QB largely because of scheme.

This is like baseball except it's football.

Goodell is new Selig

And imagine if one of those QBs played all of their 4th quarters.

This whole season is just filler before the inevitable playoff game.

Watch one of these teams lose the dumbest game you’ve ever seen to like the jets or ravens

Really sucks they took away the bye for the 2 seed

Anything can happen, but it sure feels like we're headed to the inevitable Bills/Chiefs AFC Championship to determine who gets to beat the Eagles in the Super Bowl.

If it's filler, when's the beach episode?

which means it's going to nba rules and injuries will rob of us from it.

Gotta get past Joe Burrow, who is sitting in between both of these guys stats wise but isn’t mentioned...figure that. Guess he’s also on a historic pace.

Bills chiefs superbowl gonna go hard this year

Commish side-eyes entire NFC

I remember when everyone was saying the Bills/Chiefs game was the REAL AFCCG last year. I almost bought into the hype.

If their game is the Super Bowl then what are we going to call the game when the winner of that loses to the Seahawks?

A truly dominant Bills team in the AFC while the NFC East absolutely killing each other... I feel like I've seen this before.

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Nah stop this.

Don’t worry 6 of those touchdowns will come Sunday night as josh Allen absolutely ass blasts joe Barry’s defense

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Jesus Christ I cannot wait for Sunday night, in my costume n all… gonna be a trap or a slaughter

Remember after that MNF game we thought it was going to be Mahomes and Goff?

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Remember when we thought it would be Wentz and Goff? Lol

Then we thought it was gonna be Mahomes and Watson.

Or that game Goff had against the Vikings that season. I thought he was going to develop along like mahomes or Allen lmaoo

I mean, it probably would have been if Dee Ford understood how a line of scrimmage works. Nevermind. I thought you meant we thought it would have been those two in the Superbowl, not that Goff would be "the guy."

One of the best games of all time tbh

Peyton Manning had 55 touchdowns almost a decade ago.

I was about to say not to undercut these fantastic seasons but why everything gotta be historic

With less games and less offense favoring rules.

Steroids

Both livin in Geno Smiths shadow

Geno Smith, MVP

MVPno Smith?

Imagine if they had a baby.

Posh Mahallen

Sounds like a medical marvel, tbh

Besides some crimes against nature, that child would be deemed unfair to play in the league.

A frog in short shorts named Kermit Allen.

I can’t imagine them having a baby, but I can picture them trying.

The world isn't ready for that greatness

Pffft I’ve thrown for over 6,000 yards in a season on retro bowl.

Retro Bowl fucks

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For me I did it with a two star quarterback :)

I did it on backyard football 99 just the other day.

having 1 more game in the season is a big factor in this too

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With the record being 5,477, Allen could hit that in a 16 game season, if he keeps the pace hes going.

its not like Mahomes hasnt gotten to 50 and 5k in a 16 game season before

Not really, Mahomes might be slightly under 5k but they both have an on pace rate right around the 5k 50 TD mark. You can like take those averages and compare. It's insanely, objectively high output with or without one additional game.

They both play in areas where winter can be an issue.

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I still can't wrap my head around the fact we have a good QB.

Don't forget Dolphin slayer Thaddeus Lewis

The Kyle Orton disrespect.

The absolute Kyle Orton disrespect

I thought Trent Green was going to be our best bet for a Superbowl in my lifetime. Crazy how things work out.

How does it feel?

Allen had a secretary named Mahomes and mahomes had a secretary named Allen

If a dispassionate judge were to simply look at these two photographs, one would see that Allen is roughly twice the size of Mahomes and is therefore roughly twice as good.

Allen is 12-feet tall and he's only going to put up 5k yards? He sucks

Why doesn’t Allen, the largest Quarterback, simply eat the others?

Six foot twenty, fucking killing for fun

Fair point. But, If you look closely at this picture, Josh Allen does not even have a football with him. Talk about being unprepared to play a game.

It makes Mahomes doings much more impressive, tho

The 16 game equivalents of their current paces are 5,280 for Allen and 4,935 for Mahomes.

Still can’t believe Peyton put up 5500yds/55 tds in 2013

Basically just using his intelligence too.

In a stunning plot twist Rodger Goodell announces the playoffs will just be a 5 game series between the Chiefs and Bills.

The football fan in me would love to see this. The long suffering Bills fan in me says no f*ing way.

Mahomes continues to make me rethink what a QB is capable of doing. Simply an all time talent and performer.

God i hope Daboll's magic works on Daniel Jones. Josh Allen and Mahomes are with out doubt the two best in the league. Giants optimist in me days if we actually get Jones a receiving core that didnt work for UPS last week he may be a Josh Allen jr.

Allen's turnaround wasn't Daboll, it was Jordan Palmer. Although I think most young QBs work with Palmer now, Daniel Jones included.

Jones will be good enough to win and be a very good team. But Allen is just another thing altogether. You don’t become what Allen becomes without having insane natural talents

Bills gans are rooting for both of them to succeed!

Duo MVPs if this happens

Nahh. Put em in boxing gloves after the postseason and make em fight for it.

Unfortunately if these stats happen (along with on pace int numbers) Allen will almost definitely win the MVP. He will have like double the rushing yards and 5 extra rushing TDs compared to Mahomes almost certainly and will have beaten him head to head, plus it’d be his first MVP.

This is like 2011 where Rodgers won MVP but Brees would have won in just about any other year. It was historic for both guys but the award can only go to one.

Hmmm not sure you want either to be MVP. No team has had both the league MVP on its roster & win the Super Bowl in the same season since Kurt Warner’s Rams in 1999.

Allen will most likely finish the season with the better record, and a head to head win. And add 700 yards rushing and 6-10 rushing TDs to that. So it’s probably his year.

We are in absolute fucking danger.

He’s gonna nuke y’all

What about our guy, Kirk Cousins 2.0?

5,092 and 36

I wish this was an accurate comparison.

i've had no girlfriend all year. i'm on pace to have no girlfriend the rest of the year.

17 game seasons inflate numbers.

They almost always do. Look at any record setting season. Their pace by mid season is almost always higher than their end season total.

Did you forget Mahomes throws bombs in any weather lol

Mahomes went for a 5000/50 in a 16 game season.

both of them are cold weather QBs and Mahomes has literally already had a better season than the one he’s on pace for lmao

16 game seasons inflate numbers.

But I was promised mahomes would regress to the mean 🤔

That's especially impressive considering that QB passing stats are down across the league. Obviously the season is far from over, but so far the league average passer rating and ANY/A is the lowest its been since 2017. The TD% is actually the lowest its been since 2008!

well, if you regress Mahomes and Allen to the mean...

Arguably? There's absolutely no argument the top 2 QBs 'right now' could be anyone but those two

NVP diffs both

I mean it kind of depends on your recency bias right? If you have a short enough time frame Joe burrow is the best in the league.

But would they ever kiss 😳 ?!?

“Arguably”???? They are clearly the two best QB’s

And yet, when these two meet up for the first time since facing off in arguably the greatest playoff game in history, it gets supplanted from the primetime slot for the Eagles/Cowboys match.

Because CBS is allowed to reserve a few games per season and they obviously went for that one

Well the cowboys and eagles where also 4-1 and 5-0

Whats even more exciting is they are increasing the mean for all the other QBs!

And Patrick mahomes will be ranked the 30th best qb at the end of the season by pff

Allen's not gonna get there because they keep sitting him out in the 4th quarter

The ol' Stephen Curry problem. Just tell the defense to play worse.

Let’s trade defenses then you won’t have that issue 😌

hes on pace for it despite sitting a bit

Why can’t us Patriots finally find a franchise QB??

Something that gets taken out of context in this whole thing is Mahomes has a new receiving core people said he would be exposed once Hill is gone and he is still being considered one of the best QB's.

He definitely deserves credit for taking it all in stride, but I don’t think anyone honestly thought he’d struggle considering he still has maybe the greatest TE of all time to throw to. It is impressive that his numbers have seemed to improved compared to last year, but I don’t think anyone with sense would think KC or Mahomes would struggle or not be competitive.

The Peyton Manning Broncos season was ridiculous. I won my fantasy league that year!

mahomes is the most fun qb to watch

Allen vs Mahomes is undoubtably fun to watch, but never count out Joe Burrow.

i don't think hes getting counted out, hes just been a notch below allen and mahomes.

No one is counting him out he only has one good season under his belt so far he has to continue the trend to be at the level of two consistent monsters

You mean never count out the Bengals defense which hasn’t allowed a TD in the 2nd half this season. And no one is containing Chase for 4 quarters.

Mahomes has 841 passing DYAR. Allen has 707.

Yea well neither are Geno so checkmate

As a Bills fan, I remember he had this sick jumping TD throw against us when he was a Jete. Always thought he was going to be a star. Then I forgot he even existed. Glad he's found success with you guys, and glad he's out of the conference/division.

It's nuts how these two teams are supercharged... and then the rest of the league is a shitshow of overthinking offensive schemes and "good defenses" gumming things up.

Remember when

And yet somehow they both have the same number of wins as Zach Wilson’s team (even or 0.5 games better) and fewer than Daniel Jones

Tbf the bills were on a bye week

What a time to be alive.

And most other QB's seem to have turned into pumpkins.

We are going to get a lot of “on pace” stats like this in the 17 game era. However, even prorated to 16 games, we’d still be looking at well over 5,000 yards for Josh, almost 5,000 yards for Mahomes, and mid-40s passing TDs for both. That’s not counting the 300 rushing yards (Mahomes) or 700 rushing yards and 6 TDs (Josh) these guys are on pace for.

Could Pat, like.....chill for a year? Plz!

Seems like they stole all the talent from most of the QB’s this year. They’re on a record breaking historic pace, while most of the other QB’s have looked pretty shaky

You all forgot Zappe.

Legitimately can’t believe that’s my guy.

I'm just overjoyed that my QB gets compared to such an outstanding, generational QB as Mahomes tbh.

Who is better between Mahomes and Allen?

They are both good :)

I’d personally go Mahomes. He’s still a more polished and consistent passer than Josh, is very underrated as a dual threat QB, and has the absolute best ability to prolong plays long enough for someone to get open I’ve ever seen (which is why he doesn’t have to put up huge rushing numbers.)

Depends they both are great at different things Allen has the legs and the arm Mahomes has the awareness and skillset to make any type of throw. I will say Allen is more accurate but Allen's awareness isn't as good as Mahomes is.

The general answer will be Mahomes till Allen gets accolades (MVP, SB, etc)

Mahomes since he's had more success in the post season

Mahomes

Depends on the day tbh

I’d probably lean towards Mahomes because he’s usually the better of the two but there’s not really an answer so far this year

Mahomes 100%

Yes.

If I were GM of some team and had the choice to take either, I'd personally pick Allen.

Making history doesn't seem as exciting when the rules change every year, making the game noticeably different.

17 games in a pass happy, qb friendly league will do that. Not complaining tho.

Strange that every other QB besides these two’s numbers are underwhelming in comparison. Burrows are good too I guess but not close to these two still.

Pffft, rookie numbers. I easily got 20,000 yards and 2,000 TD in a single season in Madden.

Don't worry, they'll find a way to give Rodgers the MVP anyway.

Did he not deserve the MVP, the past 2 seasons?

I really don’t think we give enough praise to Josh Allen about how he started his career vs where he is now. Dude really hung in there and became elite.

Oh good, it's the part of the season where "on pace" stats are actually taken seriously

Historic seasons. I beg to differ, Peyton Manning accomplished that feat no more than 9 years ago.

Adjusted to 16 games(to be historical):

Remember that's slightly inflated cause of the extra game. Nonetheless these 2 guys are superheros posing as QBs

For me 17 games and making it a passing heavy league on top of it makes these records and stats just not seem as impressive to me.

Because they are playing flag football

I am a Bills fan. Say what you will, but neither will top Peyton Manning's season in terms o y/gm. Even if both break it, if Manning played an extra game he would retain the lead.

Extra game will do that

Clearly Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes are the GOAT... So, they don't require deflated balls, videotaping opposition play calls, modifying rules, assistance from the Referees, overlooking teammates' criminal activity?

After 7 games two years ago, Russell Wilson was on course for 4900 yards and 59 TDs in a 16 game season.

except one is throwing to other team’s scraps after his WR1 was traded. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Andy Reid plays a massive part in that success though.

Rules changed, manufactured record breaking. Bring back the NFL of the late 2000s.

crazy how far above those 2 are from everyone else. feels like its been awhile since we had that

What's historic about not throwing for the most yards or most touchdowns in a season?

Mahomes i figured would be great under Reid. I was completely wrong about Allen. That guy is amazing.

and, at the same time, we are in the midst of one of the worst starting casts of qbs leaguewide in recent memory. There's maybe 10 "good" starters in the league right now and everyone else looks bad.

Mahomes has been facing much better defenses. Just sayin’.

Adding a game helped too

I do agree, that’s how stats work.

And yet not as good as Peyton Manning’s 2015

*2013

2013 Peyton Manning - arguably the greatest QB season of all time

They both already have twice as many touchdowns as 2015 Manning

And Allen sat two 4th quarters already this year because of blowouts

Does anyone even care about football passing stats anymore? Plus its 17 games now. This is obviously still impressive, but I view NFL passing stats like I view cfb passing stats now. It's cool but it doesn't move the needle that much for me

I don’t think Bears fans have cared about Qb-related stats in a long time.

Take away the 17th game, and this would look less impressive.

Josh Allen is the most fun player to watch since Favre for me. I'm pretty burnt out on the NFL for some reason but I tune in for Bill's games more than I do for my Saints the last 2 years.

I think Allen takes better care of the ball then Favre did, but one thing that they have in common more then any other people I can think of is their “arm arrogance”.

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On pace for 58 sacks!

Happy to be flying under the radar again this year, hoping it works out just as well.

Catch us in a few weeks if Burrow remains hot.