I really liked the the music but I didn't really get what was the point of that scene, making it super suspenseful and all. It didn't really add to anything.
I especially love how he transitioned from the typical redneck drawl to the eloquent southern accent during the brief moments of conversing with General Smithers.
I really enjoyed the movie for the most part. At first, I was a bit unsatisfied with the ending, but then I realized something: The last two people left alive were the only two people not meant to be there. They both luckily happened to be picked up by the Hangman, which ended up throwing a major wrench in the gang's plan once FOUR guests arrived instead of just TWO. Going back and watching again is rewarding because you now understand how frustrated and worried some of the characters were because of the two unintended guests.
I'm not sure if there is meant to be this subtext, but the ending had two men who hated each other come together in order to kill a woman. I was cracking up. I thought Tarantino was telling some kind of sick joke.
Favorite line: "Well you better shoot shit another pistol out your ass! Cause if you don't throw one up here in the next 2 seconds we gone kill this bitch"
This was a Tarantino bottle episode. Two settings and nothing but amazing dialogue and over-the-top violence for the whole movie. It easily could have worked as a stage play if someone wanted to stage it.
Actually movie aside, seeing a film in on an actually 70mm projector was really amazing. That coupled with the no previews, the overture, and the intermission really made my movie experience a unique and exceptional one.
Loved no trailers, no ads and the intermission. It was really special I will agree. Quentin clearly has that weight with his studio and his studio with theatre owners to get this film presented his way.
Troll level 90000 by Samuel L. the way he kills the old guy. First offers peace, brings him a bowl of stew, silent night on the piano in the background, friendly conversation. Which, inevitably, turned into "Your son was sucking my dick for a blanket!"... Only Tarantino.
While I think there are numerous aspects of this film that we can endlessly praise for how well done they were, I think Ennio Morricone's Original Score might be the best part of this film. I walked out of the theater unintentionally humming that main theme. Extremely haunting and extremely effective.
Or maybe she was Jesus... Not really, but I did notice that when she was being raised up there were snow shoes on the wall behind her that looked like her wings... A little earlier the snow shoes were thrown from the wall, not sure if they were the same ones... But seeing that glimpse of wings made me realize why they showed the Jesus statue, the crucifixion was ancient capital punishment, hanging is another form of that. That's all I have so far, just getting home from the roadshow.
I haven't heard anyone talk about Walton Goggins being nominated for Best Supporting Actor at the Oscars, but I think he definitely should be. What an incredible performance.
I agree, he knocked it out of the park. His character was well written too. In the hands of another writer and actor Mannix very well could ended up a one dimensional bumpkin but here I thought he was one of the most interesting characters in the film.
And to make him mess up while playing and curse the the mistakes. I was paying attention to SLJ story,but also concentrating as much on his fingers while he played. Good stuff!
Did anyone else have someone stand up in the middle of the first half and scream that we were all white racists for watching this movie while they were leaving? I have to say, it added to the intensity with all of the mass shooting hysteria going on these days...took a good ten minutes for my heart to regain the beat it skipped.
There may be some official word on this that I couldn't find, but did anyone else get the sense that Tim Roth's character was written specifically with Christoph Waltz in mind?
I could have sworn that the part was written specifically to get Tim Roth to say "Haberdashery" a bunch of times. That alone may have been worth the price of admission.
Actually if you look online, it is said that Waltz was considered for the hangman, but it went to Kurt Russel. But in terms of the character i can definitely see what your saying.
I was definitely thinking the same thing, but when the reveal about him occurred and he spoke to the rest of his gang "out of character" he sounded exactly like Pumpkin from Pulp Fiction. I think it's an intentional bait-and-switch. Definitely not a coincidence, at the very least, that Tim Roth is once again playing a duplicitous character under Tarantino's direction.
I actually saw an interview and Tarantino said when he originally started writing the Hateful Eight script he had Django in it but he changed it to a different character because he didn't want you to have someone to root for. He wanted you to question everyone.
Glad I wasn't the only one that noticed that. The entire time I was watching Tim Roth, I was sure he was doing a budget impression of Christoph Waltz. The mannerisms, the dialogue, everything pointed to a Waltz character.
In my showing they served us free coffee during the intermission. That was especially great when the first thing we learned after the film came back was that the coffee was poisoned.
A mixed bag for me. As usual with Tarantino there are great characters and entertaining dialogue. But there just wasn't enough of an interesting wrap-up in the final chapter of the film to justify the incredibly long, grandiose setup that proceeded it. The "plot twist" if you can call it that was incredibly obvious and once the shooting starts, it's all over pretty quickly.
Great characters? Really? I found most of them to be pretty cardboard. No real depth to any of them whatsoever and several them are of almost no consequence other than to people to add to the "Eight."
He only mentioned it because he wanted the General to pickup the gun and attempt to shoot so he could kill him. Of course it was a lie. He even says something like "your son told me his life story." Then doesn't mention any details to prove this at all. There are many cues that make it seem like its all bullshit but the outcome is the most obvious. The outcome also makes the truth behind the story irrelevant.
I don't think he did it. I think SLJ's character was shown to be creative at thinking himself out of rough situations, like with the letter from "Lincoln". So it makes sense that he would have made up an entire detailed fucked-up story to goad Bruce Dern into trying to shoot him.
I think in the end, both men were aligned with justice. No matter what their differences, they had to do what they felt was lawful. The hangman... That's justice. I like to think that at the end, Chris realized that Marquis was in the right shooting the old general... Not because they were on different sides and not because of an issue of race... But because the old general broke the law in shooting the POWs.
That line got a big "WHOA" from the sold out screening I saw it in. Think the line works in the context of Daisy's character being brutally honest and a huge racist.
I like Quentin a lot and take no umbrage with his use of the word 'nigger'; but it does make me laugh that he has to use it in pretty much every film. Like on paper, this white guy who makes multiple films dropping n bombs all over the place sounds like a complete racist even though we know that's not the truth.
Overall I really enjoyed it. It was beautifully shot, sound track worked really well, and the acting and story were good. Only problem I had with it was the pacing, but it wasn't that big of an issue. Also I had no idea Channing Tatum was in the movie until the opening credits. Then completely forgot about it until he showed up again.
On the Channing Tatum point, I would've loved if Tatum had gone the Kevin Spacey in Se7en route and left his name out of the opening credits. That would've been really great I think but contracts and all that.
I really wish they had left him out of the opening credits. I don't know about the union rules or whatever, but surprise channing tatum is best channing tatum.
Honestly, I don't know if this film is as effective without the intermission. Warren's speech at the end of chapter 3 is so jarring, so devastating to anyone who was rooting for him; and then the film just stops for 12 minutes and lets you stew in what just happened. The intermission also is a chance to get the audience prepared, because we've just seen the first character get blown away, so the pause almost tells us, "get ready, because now things are going to get REALLY ugly."
That was funny since the same actress was in Django Unchained and Sam Jackson's character says that he'll whip that ass and that girl replies saying that he loves it
God, I don't think a smile has ever broken out as much across my face than when Mannix said "No deal". I was genuinely afraid he was going to turn on Marquis.
They'll never give her the nod but Jennifer Jason Leigh deserves the Oscar. She absolutely crushed her part. There wasn't a single second of that movie where I didn't absolutely love and simultaneously hate her at the same time equally.
So, sometimes you think Tarantino's mind is probably pretty fucked up. He comes up with all this violent shit and it's always new and creative, but it's always pretty awesome. And then you see a scene and you know he's fucking crazy in a 'I don't even know if this is safe but it's awesome and also insane' kind of way. That's clearly the territory we entered when Marquis was telling the old racist the story of how he killed his son. Holy. Shit. What a scene.
Do you think he really killed him? If so, do you think he really made him suck his cock and all that? I really think that most if not all of that story was made up. That whole scene happens right after we learn that SLJ's character straight up lied about the Lincoln Letter
The only thing that bothered me was the woman next to me. Who the hell sneaks corn on the cob into a movie theater? Is popcorn not good enough? I heard the sounds of her chomping on the thing but didn't realize what it was until the intermission when she set it in the cup holder between us. It was disgusting.
In my opinion, I'm glad Roth was cast instead of Waltz. Even though I think Waltz is a better actor he would stood out too much. Roth just let the character be mostly in the background and that was the right choice.
I completely agree, also that director's commentary after the intermission was hilarious. Tarantino loves to muck around with perceived and accepted film structures, and you could see his voiceover as a random moment of narration to fulfil his cameo, but I personally would like to believe he was subtly messing around with the idea of the director's commentary and how it fits in with the idea of what a film should be in general.
Same. I was on board with the premise of the movie as established but then the second and third hour change almost everything you're led to think in the first in a way that didn't feel necessary to me. Would a more satisfying conclusion for these characters have been impossible if they just were who were when the movie started? Would that invalidate the message of the movie and central mystery? I don't think so...(another character is inserted to make it work anyway after all.) But I was so on board will all the exterior scenes in the beginning.
Loved how in the beginning the Hangman tells about almost having his arm taken off when Domerguy is punched from the coach. Later she literally hacks off his arm. Great stuff!
I thought Joe Gage was just a guy swept up in all of it until the flashback. He wasn't armed so I was like "ok, Roth and Leigh and Bob are the bad guys and Joe Gage just exists" and then the flashback revealed not only was he with them, but he was the most ruthless of them all.
Left the theater feeling refreshed. This movie made me feel the same way that movies like reservoir dogs and pulp fiction made me feel and I'm very happy about that.
I truly believe the BJ story was a fabrication. Mainly because we know Warren's character to be an artful bullshitter (the Lincoln letter) and his proclivity to deceive. The story was a good yarn/excuse for Warren to blast away an old confederate enemy.
I really liked the movie. I loved the slow, methodical dialogue of the first half and the crazy balls to the wall action of the second half. Damn good flick.
I loved the very opening shot all they way through the opening credits, so well done! For the first 5 minutes all I could picture in my mind was Tarantino saying, "Look how fucking wide this camera lens is! Look at how many mountains are on the screen right now! Look at how many trees are on the screen right now! 2.76, Mother Fucker, 2.76!"
I thought the driver in the background yelling in the stagecoach scenes was some drunk asshole in the theater at first. I got so pissed then I had to laugh at myself.
Disclaimer - never seen a Tarantino movie in full before this. But now this really really makes me want to go binge on his entire filmography. I can see how this was based on a stageplay (or something similar) and would love to see this adopted for the stage.
All hell breaking loose will never disappoint in a Tarantino movie. The Warren monologue, the poisoned coffee aftermath, and the quite poignant final scene were the 3 highlights for me.
Did anyone else feel that the ending specifically the fate of Daisy mirrored what Tim Roth's character says while in disguise as the hangman? Justice vs Frontier justice and the need for justice to be dispassionate.
Although I wouldn't necessarily call this my favorite movie of the year, Hateful Eight was easily the best time I had in a theater all year. Seeing it in 70mm was an event, the theater passed out hand bills, there was an overture, an intermission. It was a real cinematic experience... and that BJ scene slayed me.
The style of the movie was unlike any I've watched. It almost felt like a cinematic play. Like I was somehow there watching the actors in front of me on stage.
Your first point is very interesting. Although it makes me think that everything that this film is essentially a big loss for every character. There's no big, long term victory for anyone aside from maybe Warren and Mannix holding up Ruth's idea of justice.
I fully expect people to pick upon the random narration, I thoroughly enjoyed the film but the second I heard the narration I knew that's what people would dislike. It's the same as Herman Goering or whatever being pointed out with an arrow at the end of Inglorious Bastards or the square Uma Thurman draws in the air in Pulp Fiction.
I loved the narration. It made the intermission seem like a natural passage of time in the movie, and when the narrator said that O.B. had lost the drawing for taking Sandy's body out my friend and I broke down laughing. It was really neat.
Yeah it's like Tarantino allows himself just one really off the wall moment in each of his movies. Except Kill Bill. That movie was full of those moments
I wasn't a fan of Quentin saying "that's why this chapter's called 'Daisy's Got A Secret", like, yeah bud, don't worry, I figured that out, but I definitely appreciated the reminder of what you just saw with the "black dicks in white mouths" line. Y'know, because you probably forgot the interracial homosexual oral rape. It just felt like Quentin doubling down on that decision in the story and I loved it.
I went into this movie thinking, "Shit the reviews are not hyping this up to be great flick"... 30 minutes in laughing my ass off, 1 hour in laughing my ass off, right before intermission on the edge of my seat. I couldn't have asked for a better movie to watch on Xmas. Everyone who was an asshole got what was coming to them :)
Talk about an experience! Thoroughly enjoyed the movie and the presentation style. Saw it last night and still can't get over how much I enjoyed it. I honestly felt like every character was perfectly cast and played their role very well. Well worth the $17.50 movie ticket.
I go back and forth with this. I was engaged from start to finish, loved the performances, the cinematography, the score and Tarantino's signature dialogue.
Sweet and slow burn. It was beautifully shot. I absolutely enjoyed this film. I am beyond thankful I was able to view this in 70mm. A moment of silence for Sam Jackson's balls........
I thought it was a very good movie. It felt like watching a play with a unit of time and space. 90% of the movie happens in one night in that one room and it felt like a suspenseful "whodunnit"
I love dark humor and this movie seriously delivered. So many hilarious moments. Great film, very typical QT, which is fine with me. 70mm was gorgeous. The Intermission was awesome and I wish other movies had them.
I think it really is beneficial to see the movie more than once because you see the reason for some things that just seem random on the first viewing. For instance, I thought it was strange that Daisy would just announce that the sheriff of Red Rock was traveling with them and was in the stable with his (n----r) friend. On a second viewing, you now know she is announcing that prevent them from bushwacking John Ruth too soon.
At the end when Samuel Jackson (Union Soldier) and Walton Goggins (Confederate) have reconciled and are working together Walton Goggins is reading the Lincoln letter and their clothes+ the bed + their blood stains makes the background a blood stained red white and blue.
At the risk of reading into it too deeply, the ending (and much of the second half) looked to be a Civil War metaphor. Bodies everywhere. Warren (the North) and Mannix (the South) lay wounded and dying together---both casualties of the war within the haberdashery. Mannix reads the Lincoln Letter, which is really Warren's own words and hopes--or what black men would hope to come after the war was over. They die in pools of their own battle blood. Tarantino may be saying that there was no winner in the Civil War. Instead, we were all and still are fucked. All we can do is slowly die and laugh it off.
It's probably become one of my favorite Tarantino Films. It's going to be looked back on one day as one of those films we've overlooked. For a number of reasons.
can we have an O.B. appreciation thread?
Poor guy got the short straw in more ways than one.
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Whoever first stumbles upon that haberdashery is going to be a rich fucking man. 5 bounties inside and 3 more in the barn.
Well, the identifiable ones anyway... No fingerprinting back then so if your face gets blowed off there aint no bounty.
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One of my favorite scenes. Also, the way it cuts back to the Haberdashery was perfect.
I know!! I thought one of them was gonna kill the other out there.
I really liked the the music but I didn't really get what was the point of that scene, making it super suspenseful and all. It didn't really add to anything.
There's just something special about the way Kurt Russell says "Goddamnit".
I'm just glad to have more Walton Goggins in our lives. He crushed it in this movie and hopefully he'll be getting bigger roles now.
He was an absolute all-star in this. Nailed every single scene he was in.
Hopefully in future Tarantino roles too. His character went from being my most hated to most loved.
I especially love how he transitioned from the typical redneck drawl to the eloquent southern accent during the brief moments of conversing with General Smithers.
Watch the Shield and Justified if you haven't already, he's fucking incredible in both.
Still can't forgive him for Lem though.
Well cut my legs and call me shorty!
I really enjoyed the movie for the most part. At first, I was a bit unsatisfied with the ending, but then I realized something: The last two people left alive were the only two people not meant to be there. They both luckily happened to be picked up by the Hangman, which ended up throwing a major wrench in the gang's plan once FOUR guests arrived instead of just TWO. Going back and watching again is rewarding because you now understand how frustrated and worried some of the characters were because of the two unintended guests.
I liked the ending. The racist Southerner and black man reconciled. That's the happy ending.
I'm not sure if there is meant to be this subtext, but the ending had two men who hated each other come together in order to kill a woman. I was cracking up. I thought Tarantino was telling some kind of sick joke.
Anyone else find it hilarious that Oswoldo was disguising his English accent....with another English accent?
At first I thought "Ah man Tim Roth went full ham with his accent", but when I found out why, I cracked up.
I loved it. All the three in Jody's gang played as parodies of their own stereotypes.
He replaced his lower class accent with an upper class one.
This was easily his funniest film. Leigh was hilarious with her crazy cackle.
Camera pans over John's severed hand attached to Daisy
also at the beginning when he falls out hes like "gonna pull my damn arm off!" LOL
I knew it was a setup when someone was sitting in Sweet Dave's chair. Everyone knows that's Sweet Dave's chair!
Favorite line: "Well you better shoot shit another pistol out your ass! Cause if you don't throw one up here in the next 2 seconds we gone kill this bitch"
I think it was "... *shit a second gun out of your ass..."
That and the diabolical bitch in slow motion
Shit not shoot
Especially the "Told you", after he shat the second gun made me laugh.
Remind me never to drink poison that makes you vomit blood, that doesnt look fun.
Immediately thought of the Family Guy vomit scene.
Worth the price of admission just for the slow-mo SLJ diabolical bitch part. Loved the 1st and 2nd half of the film equally.
When i saw that I thought my reel had royally fucked up but glad to know it was intentional because that was gold
This was a Tarantino bottle episode. Two settings and nothing but amazing dialogue and over-the-top violence for the whole movie. It easily could have worked as a stage play if someone wanted to stage it.
The chicken being plucked let you know how much time they had left to live.
Didn't it start as a play? That's what my fancy booklet thing said
Actually movie aside, seeing a film in on an actually 70mm projector was really amazing. That coupled with the no previews, the overture, and the intermission really made my movie experience a unique and exceptional one.
Loved no trailers, no ads and the intermission. It was really special I will agree. Quentin clearly has that weight with his studio and his studio with theatre owners to get this film presented his way.
Troll level 90000 by Samuel L. the way he kills the old guy. First offers peace, brings him a bowl of stew, silent night on the piano in the background, friendly conversation. Which, inevitably, turned into "Your son was sucking my dick for a blanket!"... Only Tarantino.
MY BIG BLACK DINGUS
While I think there are numerous aspects of this film that we can endlessly praise for how well done they were, I think Ennio Morricone's Original Score might be the best part of this film. I walked out of the theater unintentionally humming that main theme. Extremely haunting and extremely effective.
That was a damn Tarantino movie if I've ever seen one.
I thought the first half was a pretty straight spaghetti Western with hat tips to Kubrick (aside from the Tarantino dialog).
I loved the door gag.
THAT DOOR IS A DIRTY WHORE!
I did too, but I thought they missed an opportunity to have somebody kick it open right after somebody finished struggling to board it up.
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metaphor for the coffin they were all in.
Jennifer Jason Leigh's face covered in blood is literally the devil itself. Can't say that her laughing didn't scare me either.
I loved how unfazed she was by everything until her brother got all over her.
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Or maybe she was Jesus... Not really, but I did notice that when she was being raised up there were snow shoes on the wall behind her that looked like her wings... A little earlier the snow shoes were thrown from the wall, not sure if they were the same ones... But seeing that glimpse of wings made me realize why they showed the Jesus statue, the crucifixion was ancient capital punishment, hanging is another form of that. That's all I have so far, just getting home from the roadshow.
well I'll be double dawg damned, Tarantino did it again. what a film.
I haven't heard anyone talk about Walton Goggins being nominated for Best Supporting Actor at the Oscars, but I think he definitely should be. What an incredible performance.
I agree, he knocked it out of the park. His character was well written too. In the hands of another writer and actor Mannix very well could ended up a one dimensional bumpkin but here I thought he was one of the most interesting characters in the film.
The scene where Sam L. Jackson is describing what he did to the generals son, while the mexican is awfully playing the piano: Pure Magic
And to make him mess up while playing and curse the the mistakes. I was paying attention to SLJ story,but also concentrating as much on his fingers while he played. Good stuff!
That scene was so perfect. Especially when it showed him laughing maniacally grabbing the sons hair. The piano was a great touch.
Did anyone else have someone stand up in the middle of the first half and scream that we were all white racists for watching this movie while they were leaving? I have to say, it added to the intensity with all of the mass shooting hysteria going on these days...took a good ten minutes for my heart to regain the beat it skipped.
I was in a theater that was probably 40% black. All I know is the black guy I was sitting next to was DYING LAUGHING during the blow job speech.
No, I didn't. That's crazy. Can't think of a single scene that would prompt that kind of response, either.
There may be some official word on this that I couldn't find, but did anyone else get the sense that Tim Roth's character was written specifically with Christoph Waltz in mind?
I could have sworn that the part was written specifically to get Tim Roth to say "Haberdashery" a bunch of times. That alone may have been worth the price of admission.
Actually if you look online, it is said that Waltz was considered for the hangman, but it went to Kurt Russel. But in terms of the character i can definitely see what your saying.
I forgot about Tim Roth for a second and thought it was waltz.
I was definitely thinking the same thing, but when the reveal about him occurred and he spoke to the rest of his gang "out of character" he sounded exactly like Pumpkin from Pulp Fiction. I think it's an intentional bait-and-switch. Definitely not a coincidence, at the very least, that Tim Roth is once again playing a duplicitous character under Tarantino's direction.
I actually saw an interview and Tarantino said when he originally started writing the Hateful Eight script he had Django in it but he changed it to a different character because he didn't want you to have someone to root for. He wanted you to question everyone.
Glad I wasn't the only one that noticed that. The entire time I was watching Tim Roth, I was sure he was doing a budget impression of Christoph Waltz. The mannerisms, the dialogue, everything pointed to a Waltz character.
Wow holy shit, I am an idiot. I watched the movie thinking he was played by Christoph Waltz.
In my showing they served us free coffee during the intermission. That was especially great when the first thing we learned after the film came back was that the coffee was poisoned.
That's goddamn genius!
That Bob face shot ... Beautiful
Or blowing Channing Tatum's brains out.
A mixed bag for me. As usual with Tarantino there are great characters and entertaining dialogue. But there just wasn't enough of an interesting wrap-up in the final chapter of the film to justify the incredibly long, grandiose setup that proceeded it. The "plot twist" if you can call it that was incredibly obvious and once the shooting starts, it's all over pretty quickly.
Great characters? Really? I found most of them to be pretty cardboard. No real depth to any of them whatsoever and several them are of almost no consequence other than to people to add to the "Eight."
Do you guys think Samuel L. Jackson actually did what he described to the General? Or was it left open to interpretation that he lied at the end?
He only mentioned it because he wanted the General to pickup the gun and attempt to shoot so he could kill him. Of course it was a lie. He even says something like "your son told me his life story." Then doesn't mention any details to prove this at all. There are many cues that make it seem like its all bullshit but the outcome is the most obvious. The outcome also makes the truth behind the story irrelevant.
I'm certain he killed the General's son, otherwise he wouldn't know the General was unaware of his son's location (or fate).
I don't think he did it. I think SLJ's character was shown to be creative at thinking himself out of rough situations, like with the letter from "Lincoln". So it makes sense that he would have made up an entire detailed fucked-up story to goad Bruce Dern into trying to shoot him.
My interpretation is no, he didn't.
Only Tarantino can make a 40 minute long scene in a horse carriage interesting. I loved this movie so much.
Holy shit I didn't realize that was 40 minutes.
I loved the bromance Marquis and Chris formed by the end of the movie, I was so happy when he didn't take Daisys deal.
They fact that they killed Daisy together was very satisfying. Them going over the letter at the end was just perfect.
I think in the end, both men were aligned with justice. No matter what their differences, they had to do what they felt was lawful. The hangman... That's justice. I like to think that at the end, Chris realized that Marquis was in the right shooting the old general... Not because they were on different sides and not because of an issue of race... But because the old general broke the law in shooting the POWs.
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Loved that part. Also love that Goggins was there to the very end, he killed it.
That line got a big "WHOA" from the sold out screening I saw it in. Think the line works in the context of Daisy's character being brutally honest and a huge racist.
I like Quentin a lot and take no umbrage with his use of the word 'nigger'; but it does make me laugh that he has to use it in pretty much every film. Like on paper, this white guy who makes multiple films dropping n bombs all over the place sounds like a complete racist even though we know that's not the truth.
Overall I really enjoyed it. It was beautifully shot, sound track worked really well, and the acting and story were good. Only problem I had with it was the pacing, but it wasn't that big of an issue. Also I had no idea Channing Tatum was in the movie until the opening credits. Then completely forgot about it until he showed up again.
On the Channing Tatum point, I would've loved if Tatum had gone the Kevin Spacey in Se7en route and left his name out of the opening credits. That would've been really great I think but contracts and all that.
I really wish they had left him out of the opening credits. I don't know about the union rules or whatever, but surprise channing tatum is best channing tatum.
Honestly, I don't know if this film is as effective without the intermission. Warren's speech at the end of chapter 3 is so jarring, so devastating to anyone who was rooting for him; and then the film just stops for 12 minutes and lets you stew in what just happened. The intermission also is a chance to get the audience prepared, because we've just seen the first character get blown away, so the pause almost tells us, "get ready, because now things are going to get REALLY ugly."
I'd give you my opinion, but it's not worth a single Peso.
Clue: Wild West Edition
Colonel Mustard equals Warren? Professor Plum equals Mobray?
Ask me if I have a fat ass.
That was funny since the same actress was in Django Unchained and Sam Jackson's character says that he'll whip that ass and that girl replies saying that he loves it
You know you do.
Do you have a fat ass?
Walton Goggins is hilarious. Stole the movie
The "I fucking knew it!" line was delivered perfect. The whole crowd cracked up
Pretty easily, too. Awesome fucking performance, that accent was amazing.
God, I don't think a smile has ever broken out as much across my face than when Mannix said "No deal". I was genuinely afraid he was going to turn on Marquis.
Kurt Russell's John Wayne impersonation was spot on.
Maybe if John Wayne was a hyena.
They'll never give her the nod but Jennifer Jason Leigh deserves the Oscar. She absolutely crushed her part. There wasn't a single second of that movie where I didn't absolutely love and simultaneously hate her at the same time equally.
So, sometimes you think Tarantino's mind is probably pretty fucked up. He comes up with all this violent shit and it's always new and creative, but it's always pretty awesome. And then you see a scene and you know he's fucking crazy in a 'I don't even know if this is safe but it's awesome and also insane' kind of way. That's clearly the territory we entered when Marquis was telling the old racist the story of how he killed his son. Holy. Shit. What a scene.
Do you think he really killed him? If so, do you think he really made him suck his cock and all that? I really think that most if not all of that story was made up. That whole scene happens right after we learn that SLJ's character straight up lied about the Lincoln Letter
The only thing that bothered me was the woman next to me. Who the hell sneaks corn on the cob into a movie theater? Is popcorn not good enough? I heard the sounds of her chomping on the thing but didn't realize what it was until the intermission when she set it in the cup holder between us. It was disgusting.
Bunch of savages in this town.
That's funny as fuck though.
Corn on the cob???
In my opinion, I'm glad Roth was cast instead of Waltz. Even though I think Waltz is a better actor he would stood out too much. Roth just let the character be mostly in the background and that was the right choice.
I'm going to be very much in the minority, but the best part of this film was the first half.
I completely agree, also that director's commentary after the intermission was hilarious. Tarantino loves to muck around with perceived and accepted film structures, and you could see his voiceover as a random moment of narration to fulfil his cameo, but I personally would like to believe he was subtly messing around with the idea of the director's commentary and how it fits in with the idea of what a film should be in general.
Same. I was on board with the premise of the movie as established but then the second and third hour change almost everything you're led to think in the first in a way that didn't feel necessary to me. Would a more satisfying conclusion for these characters have been impossible if they just were who were when the movie started? Would that invalidate the message of the movie and central mystery? I don't think so...(another character is inserted to make it work anyway after all.) But I was so on board will all the exterior scenes in the beginning.
Loved how in the beginning the Hangman tells about almost having his arm taken off when Domerguy is punched from the coach. Later she literally hacks off his arm. Great stuff!
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE KITTY CAT!?
I thought Joe Gage was just a guy swept up in all of it until the flashback. He wasn't armed so I was like "ok, Roth and Leigh and Bob are the bad guys and Joe Gage just exists" and then the flashback revealed not only was he with them, but he was the most ruthless of them all.
Left the theater feeling refreshed. This movie made me feel the same way that movies like reservoir dogs and pulp fiction made me feel and I'm very happy about that.
Serious: Why is it called "The Hateful Eight"?
O.B had no hate.
TECHNICALLY there were 10 if you include Channing Tatum's character
I think the "8" is the people there when they arrive at the Haberdashery, minus OB.
Did you get a program? It lists the hateful eight inside.
I truly believe the BJ story was a fabrication. Mainly because we know Warren's character to be an artful bullshitter (the Lincoln letter) and his proclivity to deceive. The story was a good yarn/excuse for Warren to blast away an old confederate enemy.
I really liked the movie. I loved the slow, methodical dialogue of the first half and the crazy balls to the wall action of the second half. Damn good flick.
I think that contrast was beautiful. It really made the action moments really violent.
I loved the very opening shot all they way through the opening credits, so well done! For the first 5 minutes all I could picture in my mind was Tarantino saying, "Look how fucking wide this camera lens is! Look at how many mountains are on the screen right now! Look at how many trees are on the screen right now! 2.76, Mother Fucker, 2.76!"
It felt like a 3 hour long bottle episode, but Tarantino is probably one of the few that could have pulled it off.
Reservoir Dogs was pretty much a 90 minute bottle episode.
I absolutely lost it at the Big Black Johnson dialogue, and he repeated it a few times as well.
Black dingus
WARM!
Only Tarantino can give personality to a freakin' door.
How fucking adorable was Zoe Bell?
I thought the driver in the background yelling in the stagecoach scenes was some drunk asshole in the theater at first. I got so pissed then I had to laugh at myself.
GODDAMN! That was one fun fucking movie! YEE HAW! Seriously though, Walton Goggins is the best villain-esque actor out there today.
Disclaimer - never seen a Tarantino movie in full before this. But now this really really makes me want to go binge on his entire filmography. I can see how this was based on a stageplay (or something similar) and would love to see this adopted for the stage.
All hell breaking loose will never disappoint in a Tarantino movie. The Warren monologue, the poisoned coffee aftermath, and the quite poignant final scene were the 3 highlights for me.
I love when Oswaldo drops his posh accent and sounds incredibly Cockney
I really wanted some of the stew
Did anyone else feel that the ending specifically the fate of Daisy mirrored what Tim Roth's character says while in disguise as the hangman? Justice vs Frontier justice and the need for justice to be dispassionate.
Although I wouldn't necessarily call this my favorite movie of the year, Hateful Eight was easily the best time I had in a theater all year. Seeing it in 70mm was an event, the theater passed out hand bills, there was an overture, an intermission. It was a real cinematic experience... and that BJ scene slayed me.
Poor O.B. he was the best of them
The style of the movie was unlike any I've watched. It almost felt like a cinematic play. Like I was somehow there watching the actors in front of me on stage.
Channing Tatum getting his head blown off was the best part. Such a Tarentino move lol
The movie really felt like a play to me. It was very dialogue driven and it had a mostly static setting.
Maybe it was the intermission, but that did not feel like a 3 hour film. Went by much faster.
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Your first point is very interesting. Although it makes me think that everything that this film is essentially a big loss for every character. There's no big, long term victory for anyone aside from maybe Warren and Mannix holding up Ruth's idea of justice.
Does Cabin in the Woods count? Everyone on screen dies, and everyone not on screen dies. Literally everyone in the world dies.
I fully expect people to pick upon the random narration, I thoroughly enjoyed the film but the second I heard the narration I knew that's what people would dislike. It's the same as Herman Goering or whatever being pointed out with an arrow at the end of Inglorious Bastards or the square Uma Thurman draws in the air in Pulp Fiction.
I loved the narration. It made the intermission seem like a natural passage of time in the movie, and when the narrator said that O.B. had lost the drawing for taking Sandy's body out my friend and I broke down laughing. It was really neat.
Yeah it's like Tarantino allows himself just one really off the wall moment in each of his movies. Except Kill Bill. That movie was full of those moments
I wasn't a fan of Quentin saying "that's why this chapter's called 'Daisy's Got A Secret", like, yeah bud, don't worry, I figured that out, but I definitely appreciated the reminder of what you just saw with the "black dicks in white mouths" line. Y'know, because you probably forgot the interracial homosexual oral rape. It just felt like Quentin doubling down on that decision in the story and I loved it.
People hated those? I've always loved those tiny little quirks that QT puts in his movies.
Super fun and in a beautiful format. I absolutely loved it.
I went into this movie thinking, "Shit the reviews are not hyping this up to be great flick"... 30 minutes in laughing my ass off, 1 hour in laughing my ass off, right before intermission on the edge of my seat. I couldn't have asked for a better movie to watch on Xmas. Everyone who was an asshole got what was coming to them :)
Except for, you know, Minnie and her staff.
Random question: Do we know what's getting cut out of the theatrical version?
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Does anyone else think that Christoph Waltz should have played Oswaldo Mobray?
Give Jennifer Jason Leigh the damn Oscar already. Seriously, great movie.
I really enjoyed the opening titles music with the long, plodding camera pan away from the crucifix.
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I went to see it in London and the heating was broken, so I guess that added to the experience.
Talk about an experience! Thoroughly enjoyed the movie and the presentation style. Saw it last night and still can't get over how much I enjoyed it. I honestly felt like every character was perfectly cast and played their role very well. Well worth the $17.50 movie ticket.
I loved it, but I was really wondering why Jody didn't just keep shooting from down below.
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE CAT AT MINNIE'S????
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I go back and forth with this. I was engaged from start to finish, loved the performances, the cinematography, the score and Tarantino's signature dialogue.
"So what's going on? Y'all having a bounty hunters picnic?" I don't know why, but I laughed really hard at that.
I'm used to the typical Tarantino burst of violence, but The Hateful Eight legitimately made me feel sick for a while after watching it. Good stuff.
Sweet and slow burn. It was beautifully shot. I absolutely enjoyed this film. I am beyond thankful I was able to view this in 70mm. A moment of silence for Sam Jackson's balls........
This film really grew on me. I dig it, even though it's slow to start.
I thought it was a very good movie. It felt like watching a play with a unit of time and space. 90% of the movie happens in one night in that one room and it felt like a suspenseful "whodunnit"
I loved it when Major Warren was unraveling Bob's story and connected the dots on why he shouldn't be trusted
I love dark humor and this movie seriously delivered. So many hilarious moments. Great film, very typical QT, which is fine with me. 70mm was gorgeous. The Intermission was awesome and I wish other movies had them.
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I think it really is beneficial to see the movie more than once because you see the reason for some things that just seem random on the first viewing. For instance, I thought it was strange that Daisy would just announce that the sheriff of Red Rock was traveling with them and was in the stable with his (n----r) friend. On a second viewing, you now know she is announcing that prevent them from bushwacking John Ruth too soon.
Just imagine whoever comes across that shack in the future, trying to understand WTF had hapenned there.
At the end when Samuel Jackson (Union Soldier) and Walton Goggins (Confederate) have reconciled and are working together Walton Goggins is reading the Lincoln letter and their clothes+ the bed + their blood stains makes the background a blood stained red white and blue.
At the risk of reading into it too deeply, the ending (and much of the second half) looked to be a Civil War metaphor. Bodies everywhere. Warren (the North) and Mannix (the South) lay wounded and dying together---both casualties of the war within the haberdashery. Mannix reads the Lincoln Letter, which is really Warren's own words and hopes--or what black men would hope to come after the war was over. They die in pools of their own battle blood. Tarantino may be saying that there was no winner in the Civil War. Instead, we were all and still are fucked. All we can do is slowly die and laugh it off.
It's probably become one of my favorite Tarantino Films. It's going to be looked back on one day as one of those films we've overlooked. For a number of reasons.
That coffee scene and the buildup to it, Holy Shit was that intense.
Walton Goggins was awesome, first time seeing him in a movie and already love him. His transformation to annoying to badass in TH8 was great!
Reddit (actually, the entire fucking internet): "We like character building and dialogue, action is for retarded directors like Michael Bay"