Maybe I'm forgetting but didn't Techland themselves advertise the story as a major point of DL2? I'm pretty sure I remember seeing quite a few videos hyping the story.
They did, and it's absolutely 100% fair to criticize that story. People are making up the most absurd excuses to try and invalidate this criticism like they're afraid of the game not being perfect. The game has a story, the story is a major focus, and the story is a very very heavily marketed aspect of the game, so it can be judged subjectively, and people are allowed to not like it. Accepting that other opinions exist won't hurt.
They absolutely did. It was my main reason for being hyped for it. The game has a fuckton of cut scenes and story choices. So the story was supposed to be a focus
That back fired when they fired Chris Avellone and rewrote a lot of his stuff. Guilty or not, and I don’t think he is, Avellone is an amazing writer but a very particular writer. If they left a hint of Avellone in the world and started doing their own thing off of that then it would get weird and confusing. And if they truly rewrote everything, then they had the same problems they had with the first game.
I remember an article early on bragging that they got some writers from The Witcher 3 onboard. Specifically, writers of the Bloody Baron questline. I was pretty stoked on that and thought this one might have some chops.
Yeah exactly, a massive reason i was excited, not now, and they still couldnt get it rite with fucking 20 years or how ever the fuck long, exaggerating obviously, but the point being the had more than enough time.
mainly cause from reviewers and other people it was a big part they wanted to improve upon and felt they had gotten better at. honestly I don't trust reviewers on this one or anything cause the broad range of reviews for this game are "its bad, very bad, bad bad, sucks" to "This game is just so much fun it feels like a masterpiece". its like this with alot of games that are just overall extremely good like even the first Dl had this and we all know how fun that is. basically wait till community reviews it and broader range can review WITH day 1 patches. and I'd say make the decision then
Which is funny because story was not something I really cared about in DL1. I mean it was ok, but I was more interested in parkour, combat and map design/atmosphere. I never really understood why Techland decided to cram a complicated story into a game that didn't need it. When I read about it, my first thought was "Oh no, now I'll have to sit through tons of dialogue before they let me run around the city".
That's all they advertised lol. They kept showing actors and made it seem like the story this time would be fantastic. It is terrible, all over the place and voice acting is very bad.
ive seen "choices" be a selling point by developers of games for the past 10 or so years and can't really think of a game that did them to the degree that I cared what I had done, or that don't immediately rejoin a linear story within 20 minutes of main-story gameplay.
I literally can't name a movie that I actually thought was bad because I just enjoy stories being told. Looking at reviews is such a buzzkill for me I just want to dropkick zombies off of rooftops.
Imo Dead Island had better characters and a better story, I've heard Aiden is as bland as Kyle and I'm not surprised. I miss having characters with a proper identity
To me it wasn't great by any means, but everything in the game( nothing being one of the best ever or even close to it) was good in the way that just fitted perfectly for me, making it a really good game and extremely fun to play. That's what I am exactly hoping fro DL2, nothing more and from the reviews I think I will do just fine.
I thought it was good enough. Not bad but not great. The gameplay is the highlight and it has some amazing sidequests too. This is the game I spent the 2nd most time on (after the Witcher 3). Exploring the world and doing parkour is so much fun.
Story is subjective. I didn't like the last of us 1 story ut love tlou2. I didn't enjoy witchery 3. The entire game. Its almost like people have different taste. I am gonna judge dying light 2 myself as the gameplay is still there and looks even better then dl1
Yeah, it was fine, just painfully generic and predictable. "No, no, it's not a zombie bite, it's just a cut I got while running around!", and 10 minutes later you call for the guy and he's not responding. Open the door. Oh, noes, he's a zombie! Reminds me of "The Howling". Oh, no, Doctor Wolfman, you're a werewolf?! I never would have guessed! Because your surname, WOLFMAN, doesn't suggest that at all!
well "story" can mean a lot of things to people. There are a lot of 'mini stories' in DL1 that people enjoy a lot, like the weird characters and their motives, but the overarching story is all over the place.
Story is the most important thing in the game for me, without some kind of story to follow the world feels dead and you have no goal in mind, after finishing GTA V story all i could think about doing is killing people until the police kills me, rinse and repeat so I don't stay much after i complete the main story, side quests and do a bunch of exploration because after that it's just dull.
I genuinely don't get Days gone negative reviews. The story was good until like the end. Yeah the combat was more repetitive but so were games like RDR2 or Cyberpunk where all you do is just hide and shoot, and RDR2 has high reviews as hell.
I’m literally the same way as you dude. I didn’t even know what to expect from Days Gone since I forgot about it, but once I played through it, I thought it was absolutely incredible. I just play games and see for myself rather than make myself sad and miserable over other people’s opinions on these games
Yeah and that was the one where that idiot, what was her name, i fucking hate her, lucy o brian i think where she said the famous, white generic male protagonist, new flash u dumb bitch, thats the majority of the audience's, like its a bad thing, or in other words, not pandering to my cringe, so i hate it.
Am I the only one who actually liked the story of Dying Light 😭 like it’s what I keep coming back to, the gameplay is fun but the story really compels me
I actually liked the main story and a good amount of the side quests in DL1, sure it wasn't the most original or best written but it kept me engaged and entertained while I explored the world. So I'm actually interested in seeing if I'll feel the same with DL2 or not
It’s just damage control. For some reason their ignoring the big selling point was all the choices you could make and that the story would be interesting.
Yeah but they advertised it as a main selling point didn't they? They literally got Chris avellone to showcase the game for the first time and the whole trailer was about story and choices
The narrative from the first game being average at best doesn't mean Techland should be exempt from criticism when making an even worse one in the sequel.
The only reason I was Intrested in it was because they were advertising that they massively improved the story and added choices and showed how the world changed from decisions but after Chris avellone was fired and I heard about a delay I knew the game was ruined
Ehhhhh they hyped up the story which was a decent reason I was looking forward to it. They put a lot of their advertising efforts into the story at least. It’s pretty disappointing to me that it’s falling short
The highlight was obviously seeing how far you could dropkick enemies off of a roof. Or seeing how many zombies you could knock down from dropkicking 1 zombie into them.
I just love when people say "It'S DyINg LigHt, a PaRkOuR gAMe" acting like they didn't show a 25 minute gameplay trailer clearly saying how the choices you make change the world and shit.
Actually DL1 story grown on me qute a bit over time. I became infatuated with people of Harran, but that happened years after the release. "Kraaaaaane!" scene is my favorite.
Game journalists aren’t the sort of people you want to take advice from, they pick the shortest route to the end and then complain that the game was short
I didnt think DL1 story was bad at all. Its not some emotionally complex story like RDR2, but i still remember it all, and i havent played it in like 4 years, where as i don’t remember most or anything of plenty of other big games. Cod modern warfare 2019, i couldnt tell you anything about that story other than the terrorist house mission for example!
This happens when you fire Chris Avellone over false accusations on Twitter and you get a generic story like the first game. It seems like developers today can't hire a good writer from the industry. It doesn’t have to be specifically the gaming industry, it can be anyone from the film industry, or people that write horror books, comics. Even if by any chance they hired Guillermo del Toro, the story would’ve been a thousand times better than we got. I’m really pissed, because this was highlighted and marketed and many of us were looking forward to Dying Light's 2 story.
The dying light 1 story was fine, it wasn't amazing but it was OK and some characters were quite likeable, now if dying light 2 has indeed an even worse story I think that's kinda sad. It would prove that Techland can't improve after such a long development time.
Chris didn't write the story though. It's not like they had this whole thing going with him and then scrapped it. Here is a literal quote from him about it.
I don't need the game to be a visual novel. It's just needs a decent enough story arch to progress the game forward and maybe some likeable characters here and there.
I’m over hearing about reviewers opinions on games I never read them cause that’s what ruins a game play it and form your own opinion and if you want to know before you buy ask someone that has played it because most reviewers are full of shit
same, i have 150 hours in cp77 that i would have missed out on completely if i listen to reviews and even other gamers. in fact my enjoyment in games has gotten so much better after i just stopped listened to the internet for anything.
I enjoyed the story of the first, and the following. Who cares if some reviewer thinks its not great? They are games journalists, not who you go to for story opinions lol
I skip the stories for the majority of games I played. I rarely finish RPGs at all. But I was dead drawn to dying light's story and gameplay. Super stoked for DL2, fuck the reviewers
Honestly in DL1 the story wasn’t anything special, there were some really shocking and sad moments but it was the gameplay that kept it going, I.e. parkour and combat
I find it concerning the game's story is being critically panned when that was presented as it's main marketable feature. Like hard. It was all they hyped up in showcases and at conventions. Before his sexual harassment allegations, they also made a lot of noise about having Chris Avellone consulting on the game. It was being presented as the main selling point, almost in reaction to critics talking about the story falling a bit flat in comparison to the amazing gameplay of DL1.
Yeah I'm confused by the IGN review (as if that's new). In basically the same breath, he said that the characters were great and then that they felt unimportant or something along those lines.
"Bad story" in honestly an understatement. Might be a fun game but it's genuinely one of the shittiest stories I've ever seen, if not for how poorly it's written then because it's just a montage of Crane getting spit on and jerked around by awful dumbasses he could easily beat into the pavement.
Narrative is THE most important thing to me, without it everything wlse is shit and worthless, the fact they couldnt get it rite with the amount of time they had, pretty bad.
It’s so satisfying watching this game flop after what they did to my boy Chris avellone completely innocent and they fired him because some dumb ass Twitter bitch said he assaulted her with no proof and she literally deleted over 8k tweets to try to cover herself up
Absolutely disgusts me, the minute i heard anout this i suspected exactly this, so im mot suprised to hear this, women do this shit all the fucking time and get away with it. Really makes me sick.
Chris didn't write the story though. It's not like they had this whole thing going with him and then scrapped it. Here is a literal quote from him about it.
Despite it's generic story. I actually liked the story of Dying Light 1. You don't need an out of this world amazing story. You just need one that actually works.
i definitely understand newcomers to the series complaints about the story Techland has gone out of there way to market this game as deep branching story rpg type game and if they botch the story and get hate for deceptive marketing and bad story they deserve it.
Honestly from the people that I have been seeing playing it from Twitter says the game is awesome and a lot of them can't put it down, but then reviewers from gaming websites say it's awful. It just reminds me of rotten tomatoes when they will rate an actual good movie bad and the audience score is higher. Plus not to mention it just seems like a lot of gaming sites are just recycling their dying light 1 review and dying light 1 is an amazing game. I have no doubt that Dying Light 2 is going to be amazing
I absolutely love DL1...because the story gets pretty batshit crazy between the main and side quests. It's a game about the Undead, what kind of story do people expect? Do people want it to be like the Walking Dead where it's survivors in an apocalyptic world and oh yea there are zombies? DL1 has always been "Holy shit I am absolutely outnumbered, Night time makes me shit my pants, and I need to constantly scale buildings without sleeping well ever again. Oh and there are giant zombies that throw boulders at me."
When the story is great, people birch about the gameplay. When the gameplay is great, people birch about the story. No one is ever happy. DL1 is a 10 to me personally. I love absolutely everything about the game. I am so hyped for DL2. No one else supports a game for 5+ years like these guys. And Crazy good updates too. If you're not a fan of the series, I don't think there is any way to sway you.
Am I the only person who actually liked the Dying Light story? I mean, it was predictable at times and could’ve been better for sure. But it was far from terrible.
Y'all are acting like these reviews are sacred, lol. We don't know if the story is good or bad yet. Almost every actual dying light player has said that the game is great and fun, they don't decide if it's amazing either. Wait for the damn thing to release
Eh, they themselves highlighted it. Dont give them a free pass. That said, its a very subjective complaint. And its a zombie game. I wasn't expecting RDR2/Deus Ex level writing. But still, I hate it when people ignore complaints about story. It IS important. Borderlands 3 had great gameplay but the story just did not keep my attention like BL2 did and I could not keep interested in BL3 cuz of it. That said, I didn't think Dying Light story was as bad as everyone said either. I can be forgiving as long as I can see a coherent plotline that effort was put into. Being a writer IS NOT EASY. Especially in video games. Continuity is a bitch.
Aw man, techland really tried with the story this time too lol but obviously their writers just aren’t up to scratch and look, to be fair, the standard for video game writing these days is very high. But I respect that they still attempted it and tried even if they didn’t hit that home run. I’m still excited for the game. Since it’s announcement I’ve said that even if it is just more of DL1 in a bigger and denser world with more stuff to do I’d be happy, seems like they delivered that
I mean we can already kinda guess what the story is about anyway even before playing the game. In what way can the story break free from the generic zombie apocalypse and be some 5head mind blowing plot
it’s all a matter of opinion, i think. like for me dying light 1 was actually my first game of any kind that i immersed myself in, so i think the “cheesy” and whatever else made it perfect for that. i had loads of fun with the game, the story was decent
Did it have a bad story though? Will the sequel have a bad story though? I'll never take any opinion seriously when it comes to the story because most times I'll have the opposite reaction. For example, I think Dying Light had a decent story. Was it the greatest? No, but not bad by any means.
The issue is that techland put a LOT of focus when adversiting the game on story, so people will automatically keep them in higher standards when judging story, if they didnt put so much focus on story when adversiting game people would give them free pass.
I literally have no idea what you people are on about. Dying light was a blast, I enjoyed the entire game from start to finish. I swear some people just want to complain constantly
I mean, I’d rather the game have a good story, but I personally didn’t find the first games story that bad, it was nothing special sure, but it was serviceable enough that I didn’t feel the need to skip every cutscene.
The thing is reviewers are all over the place with what they like and what they don’t like. Some say they were surprised how well written the story was, some say it was bad.
Personally i still wanted a change. That in the sequel, the narrative could at least be more in the spotlight but doesn't have to be the full highlight
Never trust review sites anymore, they all have their own agenda and honestly cannot be trusted to give us an unbiased review, im sure the game will be great, and if they have planned story dlc then they mustve put thought and effort into the main story.
I personally liked the story in the thin lines, to give the overall lore some insight but the story itself with Rais was pretty ''Ehh..'' I loved The Following though.
What a dumb meme, when they made a lengthy video explaining how much of the focus was on a story, and on choices that would totally change things. They screwed up by firing Chris, and the result is a lackluster story. That is unfortunate. Having said that, never paid attention to any trailers much really, so don't really have any expectations. I did enjoy DL1 and The Following.
The first game's story was okay, the best thing was the immersion though. The music and the level design helped in that regard. As long as the immersion and gameplay is there I wouldn't mind another okay story
honestly I never really base myself on review scores, nearly 100% of times where I played a game with a low score I enjoyed and disagreed with the review once I experienced the game for myself, so if a game doesn't have a review score of 1-3 I ignore the review and play it myself.
Dying Light 2 has a great story when it focuses on the people. Its characters are great, some of the quests are genuinely affecting. Its villain and main narrative...not so much. It's an improvement on DL1 100%, though.
I saw this pic and I thought, this really spoke to me. I also posted something a few moments ago. Just a lengthy essay to share my thoughts surrounding the hype of the game (even after watching a few review videos since last night).
The first time around, yeah, it's predictable as hell but I still enjoyed it enough. And I enjoy it so much more now after years of certain IP constantly shifting and changing what was going on in the story in some trite attempt to be smarter than the audience.
I love the constant brushing off of the story being bad (seemingly anyways), because "well the gameplay is fun". Demand better. You can have both you know. And as many others have pointed out they hyped it up big themselves.
the story was literally the reason why a lot of People pre ordered the sequel because it was supposed to be better than the first game, at this Point its Just copium overload, everyone forgot about everything that techland promised Just because they updated the first game for So long, im not saying that the story will be awful but it wont be as Good as techland advertised it to be
I don't care much about story if i enjoy it good i don't read into the story a lot i only care if i have fun while playing that story like i do with every story and i feel like i will have fun
Dying Light is one of the prime examples of "a good game doesn't need a good story." Hell, games like Mario, Minecraft, and Happy Wheels have little to no story. It's the GAMEPLAY that everyone comes back for. So as long as the gameplay is great, in my mind at least, that makes it a good game. I always come back to the original Dying Light because it has possibly the best gameplay and replayability of any game I've ever played, making it my favorite game of all time. I will admit it's flawed (no game is perfect), but I'm super excited for the sequel tonight.
The devs said your choices make a diffrence to the gameplay and ofc the story i feel like they focused on the gameplay part a bit morw like dl1 but again as dl1 the gameplay will probably be amazing
I have a feeling this game's story is going to be like Deadrisings or Evil Dead 2. It's ridiculous and over the top on purpose- some people dont really get it, but others like myself love it
Dying light is proof that gameplay is king. Dying light story was never the highlight but yet i have clocked hundreds of hours because it is fun as hell
Maybe I'm forgetting but didn't Techland themselves advertise the story as a major point of DL2? I'm pretty sure I remember seeing quite a few videos hyping the story.
They did, and it's absolutely 100% fair to criticize that story. People are making up the most absurd excuses to try and invalidate this criticism like they're afraid of the game not being perfect. The game has a story, the story is a major focus, and the story is a very very heavily marketed aspect of the game, so it can be judged subjectively, and people are allowed to not like it. Accepting that other opinions exist won't hurt.
They absolutely did. It was my main reason for being hyped for it. The game has a fuckton of cut scenes and story choices. So the story was supposed to be a focus
They kinda did tho. The whole "build your world" and how different factions reacted to you was all a part of their advertising on story.
That back fired when they fired Chris Avellone and rewrote a lot of his stuff. Guilty or not, and I don’t think he is, Avellone is an amazing writer but a very particular writer. If they left a hint of Avellone in the world and started doing their own thing off of that then it would get weird and confusing. And if they truly rewrote everything, then they had the same problems they had with the first game.
I remember an article early on bragging that they got some writers from The Witcher 3 onboard. Specifically, writers of the Bloody Baron questline. I was pretty stoked on that and thought this one might have some chops.
Yeah exactly, a massive reason i was excited, not now, and they still couldnt get it rite with fucking 20 years or how ever the fuck long, exaggerating obviously, but the point being the had more than enough time.
That was when Chris Avelon was in charge, they fired him and story changed (they cut all his work)
they did up until the point they cancelled their lead writer, oops lol
mainly cause from reviewers and other people it was a big part they wanted to improve upon and felt they had gotten better at. honestly I don't trust reviewers on this one or anything cause the broad range of reviews for this game are "its bad, very bad, bad bad, sucks" to "This game is just so much fun it feels like a masterpiece". its like this with alot of games that are just overall extremely good like even the first Dl had this and we all know how fun that is. basically wait till community reviews it and broader range can review WITH day 1 patches. and I'd say make the decision then
Every game advertises there story to be a big thing when it’s a story based/ zombie slaying coop game.
Which is funny because story was not something I really cared about in DL1. I mean it was ok, but I was more interested in parkour, combat and map design/atmosphere. I never really understood why Techland decided to cram a complicated story into a game that didn't need it. When I read about it, my first thought was "Oh no, now I'll have to sit through tons of dialogue before they let me run around the city".
That was before the controversy with the Writer that originally promised all the stuff people are talking about.
That's all they advertised lol. They kept showing actors and made it seem like the story this time would be fantastic. It is terrible, all over the place and voice acting is very bad.
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Highly underrated. It was like an 80s action movie. And The Following was actually fantastic and had 3 endings.
Me too!
I like it too. Even the following. But i understand, some people didnt.
???
ive seen "choices" be a selling point by developers of games for the past 10 or so years and can't really think of a game that did them to the degree that I cared what I had done, or that don't immediately rejoin a linear story within 20 minutes of main-story gameplay.
People keep saying the narrative wasn't a high point of DL but honestly, I loved it.
to me it was just cheesy enough I could have fun with it
Same
I literally can't name a movie that I actually thought was bad because I just enjoy stories being told. Looking at reviews is such a buzzkill for me I just want to dropkick zombies off of rooftops.
Same. I enjoyed every bit of it. Did have it's low moments but still enjoyable and made you wonder what happens next.
Imo Dead Island had better characters and a better story, I've heard Aiden is as bland as Kyle and I'm not surprised. I miss having characters with a proper identity
To me it wasn't great by any means, but everything in the game( nothing being one of the best ever or even close to it) was good in the way that just fitted perfectly for me, making it a really good game and extremely fun to play. That's what I am exactly hoping fro DL2, nothing more and from the reviews I think I will do just fine.
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I thought it was good enough. Not bad but not great. The gameplay is the highlight and it has some amazing sidequests too. This is the game I spent the 2nd most time on (after the Witcher 3). Exploring the world and doing parkour is so much fun.
Story is subjective. I didn't like the last of us 1 story ut love tlou2. I didn't enjoy witchery 3. The entire game. Its almost like people have different taste. I am gonna judge dying light 2 myself as the gameplay is still there and looks even better then dl1
what they mean by bad story is probably plot holes and some things that would not actualy happen in that situation but it was very enjoyable :)
Yeah, it was fine, just painfully generic and predictable. "No, no, it's not a zombie bite, it's just a cut I got while running around!", and 10 minutes later you call for the guy and he's not responding. Open the door. Oh, noes, he's a zombie! Reminds me of "The Howling". Oh, no, Doctor Wolfman, you're a werewolf?! I never would have guessed! Because your surname, WOLFMAN, doesn't suggest that at all!
I actually really enjoyed plot twists there.
Story does matter. It elevates the gameplay without altering it because you give a shit about yhe characters and it grips you more etc.
well "story" can mean a lot of things to people. There are a lot of 'mini stories' in DL1 that people enjoy a lot, like the weird characters and their motives, but the overarching story is all over the place.
Story is the most important thing in the game for me, without some kind of story to follow the world feels dead and you have no goal in mind, after finishing GTA V story all i could think about doing is killing people until the police kills me, rinse and repeat so I don't stay much after i complete the main story, side quests and do a bunch of exploration because after that it's just dull.
Meh, they slammed Days Gone too and it turned out to be one of my all time favourites.
I genuinely don't get Days gone negative reviews. The story was good until like the end. Yeah the combat was more repetitive but so were games like RDR2 or Cyberpunk where all you do is just hide and shoot, and RDR2 has high reviews as hell.
I personally loved days gone and honestly don’t get the hate around it.
I’m literally the same way as you dude. I didn’t even know what to expect from Days Gone since I forgot about it, but once I played through it, I thought it was absolutely incredible. I just play games and see for myself rather than make myself sad and miserable over other people’s opinions on these games
Days Gone had a functional, mediocre story supported by a decent cast of well rounded individuals. And Skizzo.
Yeah and that was the one where that idiot, what was her name, i fucking hate her, lucy o brian i think where she said the famous, white generic male protagonist, new flash u dumb bitch, thats the majority of the audience's, like its a bad thing, or in other words, not pandering to my cringe, so i hate it.
Am I the only one who actually liked the story of Dying Light 😭 like it’s what I keep coming back to, the gameplay is fun but the story really compels me
Rais is such a comic villain I love him
They literally advertised DL2 as having a much better story and a great improvement over the first game lol
Considering the original story they don't have to do much to improve greatly on it.
That was when they had Avellone
I actually liked the main story and a good amount of the side quests in DL1, sure it wasn't the most original or best written but it kept me engaged and entertained while I explored the world. So I'm actually interested in seeing if I'll feel the same with DL2 or not
So what? Just cause it wasn’t a high point doesn’t mean people shouldn’t hope or expect for a good story this time around.
It’s just damage control. For some reason their ignoring the big selling point was all the choices you could make and that the story would be interesting.
Yeah but they advertised it as a main selling point didn't they? They literally got Chris avellone to showcase the game for the first time and the whole trailer was about story and choices
I was hoping the same also.
Avellone got cancelled so they had to restart writing process mid development. I was expecting the story to be shit after that came out
The narrative from the first game being average at best doesn't mean Techland should be exempt from criticism when making an even worse one in the sequel.
Wait, is DL2's story worse compared to DL1's?
I loved the story of Dying light 1 and the following
The only reason I was Intrested in it was because they were advertising that they massively improved the story and added choices and showed how the world changed from decisions but after Chris avellone was fired and I heard about a delay I knew the game was ruined
I thought the same.
Ehhhhh they hyped up the story which was a decent reason I was looking forward to it. They put a lot of their advertising efforts into the story at least. It’s pretty disappointing to me that it’s falling short
The highlight was obviously seeing how far you could dropkick enemies off of a roof. Or seeing how many zombies you could knock down from dropkicking 1 zombie into them.
dead island fans waiting for dead island 2
We don’t need that game.
When their main selling point was its expansive story line, it's not going to be a surprise when people are pissed that the story is crap.
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Yea I'll miss the diversity and how different it felt. I read that all the characters are forgettable in DL2.
My fault for expecting what they literally advertised and marketed as the main selling point
According to this sub, Yeah it's you're fault apparently
I just love when people say "It'S DyINg LigHt, a PaRkOuR gAMe" acting like they didn't show a 25 minute gameplay trailer clearly saying how the choices you make change the world and shit.
Techland white knighting is real.
Not just Techland, it's all media nowadays with fans incapable of seeing faults. It's like religion for people.
Actually DL1 story grown on me qute a bit over time. I became infatuated with people of Harran, but that happened years after the release. "Kraaaaaane!" scene is my favorite.
Dying light 1s story is like an 80s action movie, its so cheesey and over the top that you can just have fun with it
Lol now we're happy to change the whole narrative?
The story of Dying Light 2 was hyped because Chris Avellone was onboard.
I honestly don’t care about reviews because you can like a game and everyone can say it’s bad
Game journalists aren’t the sort of people you want to take advice from, they pick the shortest route to the end and then complain that the game was short
well the game advertised a focus on story with a lot of choices that matter and affect the world. so i'm going in expecting that
I don't trust reviewers
I didnt think DL1 story was bad at all. Its not some emotionally complex story like RDR2, but i still remember it all, and i havent played it in like 4 years, where as i don’t remember most or anything of plenty of other big games. Cod modern warfare 2019, i couldnt tell you anything about that story other than the terrorist house mission for example!
This happens when you fire Chris Avellone over false accusations on Twitter and you get a generic story like the first game. It seems like developers today can't hire a good writer from the industry. It doesn’t have to be specifically the gaming industry, it can be anyone from the film industry, or people that write horror books, comics. Even if by any chance they hired Guillermo del Toro, the story would’ve been a thousand times better than we got. I’m really pissed, because this was highlighted and marketed and many of us were looking forward to Dying Light's 2 story.
The dying light 1 story was fine, it wasn't amazing but it was OK and some characters were quite likeable, now if dying light 2 has indeed an even worse story I think that's kinda sad. It would prove that Techland can't improve after such a long development time.
I saw this coming once they kicked Avellone out
no avellone, no buy
Techland really did this to themselves by firing Chris Avelone mid development over some twitter weirdos, what a shame.
Who's Chris? I've heard his name before, but I don't exactly know who he is
Chris didn't write the story though. It's not like they had this whole thing going with him and then scrapped it. Here is a literal quote from him about it.
For me it was the combat and side quests and abilities
The fact that you’re all fine w this standard is kinda sad
I don't need the game to be a visual novel. It's just needs a decent enough story arch to progress the game forward and maybe some likeable characters here and there.
Well, we're fine with it 'cause the gameplay is what we love DL for in the grand scheme of things
So your saying it’s fine if dying light 2 has a shit story 😂
Yeah. DL1 basically a sh*t story too. I mean, its o.k, enough to progress the game, but wasn't like playing "Dragon Age: Origins" or something.
I’m over hearing about reviewers opinions on games I never read them cause that’s what ruins a game play it and form your own opinion and if you want to know before you buy ask someone that has played it because most reviewers are full of shit
same, i have 150 hours in cp77 that i would have missed out on completely if i listen to reviews and even other gamers. in fact my enjoyment in games has gotten so much better after i just stopped listened to the internet for anything.
Ask someone that has played it is the same thing as a reviewer providing their opinion, isn't it?
It’s disappointing given how much supposed effort and time they were meant to give the story in all the pre-release interviews about it
I don’t even trust reviews anymore tbh.
After watching the prologue and a little bit of main quests, i think the story is awsome. But i will play by myself in 21 hours.
I enjoyed the story of the first, and the following. Who cares if some reviewer thinks its not great? They are games journalists, not who you go to for story opinions lol
even if the story sucks, imma enjoy the experience
Kyle Crane was, is and always will be a fucking legend. We should know that by now.
One of the things that was very well hyped and marketed was the story or how much better it is this time around.
I skip the stories for the majority of games I played. I rarely finish RPGs at all. But I was dead drawn to dying light's story and gameplay. Super stoked for DL2, fuck the reviewers
Polish developers so polished game haha
I just want my zombie parkour game! Story it's optional!
something something i want to walk on zombies and drop kick a bitch off a roof and look awesome while doing it
I feel like it wasn’t the best but it was good enough to keep myself motivated to see the next mission and what happens
Honestly in DL1 the story wasn’t anything special, there were some really shocking and sad moments but it was the gameplay that kept it going, I.e. parkour and combat
I find it concerning the game's story is being critically panned when that was presented as it's main marketable feature. Like hard. It was all they hyped up in showcases and at conventions. Before his sexual harassment allegations, they also made a lot of noise about having Chris Avellone consulting on the game. It was being presented as the main selling point, almost in reaction to critics talking about the story falling a bit flat in comparison to the amazing gameplay of DL1.
Yeah I'm confused by the IGN review (as if that's new). In basically the same breath, he said that the characters were great and then that they felt unimportant or something along those lines.
Yeah, IGN, totally agree with you. IGNorant for sure.
"Bad story" in honestly an understatement. Might be a fun game but it's genuinely one of the shittiest stories I've ever seen, if not for how poorly it's written then because it's just a montage of Crane getting spit on and jerked around by awful dumbasses he could easily beat into the pavement.
Narrative is THE most important thing to me, without it everything wlse is shit and worthless, the fact they couldnt get it rite with the amount of time they had, pretty bad.
So you’re just ok with a trash story? That’s a weird take
It’s so satisfying watching this game flop after what they did to my boy Chris avellone completely innocent and they fired him because some dumb ass Twitter bitch said he assaulted her with no proof and she literally deleted over 8k tweets to try to cover herself up
Feel the same this game was probably gonna be a 9/10.
Absolutely disgusts me, the minute i heard anout this i suspected exactly this, so im mot suprised to hear this, women do this shit all the fucking time and get away with it. Really makes me sick.
What they did to Chris avellone and it might have been good
Chris didn't write the story though. It's not like they had this whole thing going with him and then scrapped it. Here is a literal quote from him about it.
“Dying Light has a bad story” is maybe the most laughably reductive criticism in modern gaming.
I like anything Chris Avalon has his hands on
WE DONT GIVE A SHIT. LET ME DROP KICKS GUYS OFF OF THE ROOF. 😂
I loved the story of the first one though so I think I'm in the minority.
Despite it's generic story. I actually liked the story of Dying Light 1. You don't need an out of this world amazing story. You just need one that actually works.
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I personally liked the story in DL1
i definitely understand newcomers to the series complaints about the story Techland has gone out of there way to market this game as deep branching story rpg type game and if they botch the story and get hate for deceptive marketing and bad story they deserve it.
Honestly from the people that I have been seeing playing it from Twitter says the game is awesome and a lot of them can't put it down, but then reviewers from gaming websites say it's awful. It just reminds me of rotten tomatoes when they will rate an actual good movie bad and the audience score is higher. Plus not to mention it just seems like a lot of gaming sites are just recycling their dying light 1 review and dying light 1 is an amazing game. I have no doubt that Dying Light 2 is going to be amazing
I absolutely love DL1...because the story gets pretty batshit crazy between the main and side quests. It's a game about the Undead, what kind of story do people expect? Do people want it to be like the Walking Dead where it's survivors in an apocalyptic world and oh yea there are zombies? DL1 has always been "Holy shit I am absolutely outnumbered, Night time makes me shit my pants, and I need to constantly scale buildings without sleeping well ever again. Oh and there are giant zombies that throw boulders at me."
When the story is great, people birch about the gameplay. When the gameplay is great, people birch about the story. No one is ever happy. DL1 is a 10 to me personally. I love absolutely everything about the game. I am so hyped for DL2. No one else supports a game for 5+ years like these guys. And Crazy good updates too. If you're not a fan of the series, I don't think there is any way to sway you.
I mean I definitely hope the story is better than the first game but it's for sure not why I'm buying it
I just want a context to the shit I'll be doing in the game. A good story is a bonus, but I don't care if it's bad as long as the gameplay is good.
Is this game still worth getting? I see some people have gotten it early. I’m seeing mixed reviews here. I pre ordered but I’m concerned now.
I'm more concerned about the downgraded gameplay
Am I the only person who actually liked the Dying Light story? I mean, it was predictable at times and could’ve been better for sure. But it was far from terrible.
Y'all are acting like these reviews are sacred, lol. We don't know if the story is good or bad yet. Almost every actual dying light player has said that the game is great and fun, they don't decide if it's amazing either. Wait for the damn thing to release
Eh, they themselves highlighted it. Dont give them a free pass. That said, its a very subjective complaint. And its a zombie game. I wasn't expecting RDR2/Deus Ex level writing. But still, I hate it when people ignore complaints about story. It IS important. Borderlands 3 had great gameplay but the story just did not keep my attention like BL2 did and I could not keep interested in BL3 cuz of it. That said, I didn't think Dying Light story was as bad as everyone said either. I can be forgiving as long as I can see a coherent plotline that effort was put into. Being a writer IS NOT EASY. Especially in video games. Continuity is a bitch.
Aw man, techland really tried with the story this time too lol but obviously their writers just aren’t up to scratch and look, to be fair, the standard for video game writing these days is very high. But I respect that they still attempted it and tried even if they didn’t hit that home run. I’m still excited for the game. Since it’s announcement I’ve said that even if it is just more of DL1 in a bigger and denser world with more stuff to do I’d be happy, seems like they delivered that
Meh i really enjoyed the first ones story and i dont care how many people come and tell me everything they find wrong with it, i still enjoy it 🤷
I mean we can already kinda guess what the story is about anyway even before playing the game. In what way can the story break free from the generic zombie apocalypse and be some 5head mind blowing plot
it’s all a matter of opinion, i think. like for me dying light 1 was actually my first game of any kind that i immersed myself in, so i think the “cheesy” and whatever else made it perfect for that. i had loads of fun with the game, the story was decent
Did it have a bad story though? Will the sequel have a bad story though? I'll never take any opinion seriously when it comes to the story because most times I'll have the opposite reaction. For example, I think Dying Light had a decent story. Was it the greatest? No, but not bad by any means.
The issue is that techland put a LOT of focus when adversiting the game on story, so people will automatically keep them in higher standards when judging story, if they didnt put so much focus on story when adversiting game people would give them free pass.
Be your own critic. That's my motto.
I literally have no idea what you people are on about. Dying light was a blast, I enjoyed the entire game from start to finish. I swear some people just want to complain constantly
What have been the critiques of the story?
I mean, I’d rather the game have a good story, but I personally didn’t find the first games story that bad, it was nothing special sure, but it was serviceable enough that I didn’t feel the need to skip every cutscene.
If the story is good that’s fine, it’s not why me and my buddies are playing the game
Are we about to witness a Cyberpunk cataclysm here too?
I never liked the story in the main game. Got hooked up on The Following way more.
The thing is reviewers are all over the place with what they like and what they don’t like. Some say they were surprised how well written the story was, some say it was bad.
Personally i still wanted a change. That in the sequel, the narrative could at least be more in the spotlight but doesn't have to be the full highlight
I honestly loved the story in the first game. Don't understand why everyone hates on it.
i liked it even if it's was bad reminde me of dead island giving me nostalgia
Never trust review sites anymore, they all have their own agenda and honestly cannot be trusted to give us an unbiased review, im sure the game will be great, and if they have planned story dlc then they mustve put thought and effort into the main story.
I can drop kick zombies and run on walls, what else can I ask for
I personally liked the story in the thin lines, to give the overall lore some insight but the story itself with Rais was pretty ''Ehh..'' I loved The Following though.
I really liked the dying light storyline.
I'm just gonna judge it for myself, because reviewers are often full of shit.
What a dumb meme, when they made a lengthy video explaining how much of the focus was on a story, and on choices that would totally change things. They screwed up by firing Chris, and the result is a lackluster story. That is unfortunate. Having said that, never paid attention to any trailers much really, so don't really have any expectations. I did enjoy DL1 and The Following.
DROP KICK
The first game's story was okay, the best thing was the immersion though. The music and the level design helped in that regard. As long as the immersion and gameplay is there I wouldn't mind another okay story
honestly I never really base myself on review scores, nearly 100% of times where I played a game with a low score I enjoyed and disagreed with the review once I experienced the game for myself, so if a game doesn't have a review score of 1-3 I ignore the review and play it myself.
Story in this one was a big point of the marketing though. No clue if that was the same for the first, but it's understandable to criticize it.
Really? Gmanlives said the story and how many choices you have in it was impressive and almost mindblowing..
There's a good amount of reviews made by actual gamers who said the story was good
Yeah, not a surprise at all
Dying Light 2 has a great story when it focuses on the people. Its characters are great, some of the quests are genuinely affecting. Its villain and main narrative...not so much. It's an improvement on DL1 100%, though.
These are reviewers. They say crap like this but then give a high score. They gave 2042 a high rating, and you all know how that game is doing
I saw this pic and I thought, this really spoke to me. I also posted something a few moments ago. Just a lengthy essay to share my thoughts surrounding the hype of the game (even after watching a few review videos since last night).
The first time around, yeah, it's predictable as hell but I still enjoyed it enough. And I enjoy it so much more now after years of certain IP constantly shifting and changing what was going on in the story in some trite attempt to be smarter than the audience.
I love the constant brushing off of the story being bad (seemingly anyways), because "well the gameplay is fun". Demand better. You can have both you know. And as many others have pointed out they hyped it up big themselves.
It's not bad at all. I love it.
Dying Light 1 has a great story. Crane has no business being as fun a protagonist as he is given how on paper he's so generic.
Yeah the story wasn’t the greatest for me personally unlike the following. But i did and i still do enjoy the gameplay of dl1 very much!
i watched a stream yesterday. there is A LOT of story and dialogue lol, i think it matters
It's subjective, i like the story of Diyng Light 1 and now i want see the DL2 story
the story was literally the reason why a lot of People pre ordered the sequel because it was supposed to be better than the first game, at this Point its Just copium overload, everyone forgot about everything that techland promised Just because they updated the first game for So long, im not saying that the story will be awful but it wont be as Good as techland advertised it to be
I don't care much about story if i enjoy it good i don't read into the story a lot i only care if i have fun while playing that story like i do with every story and i feel like i will have fun
Dying Light is one of the prime examples of "a good game doesn't need a good story." Hell, games like Mario, Minecraft, and Happy Wheels have little to no story. It's the GAMEPLAY that everyone comes back for. So as long as the gameplay is great, in my mind at least, that makes it a good game. I always come back to the original Dying Light because it has possibly the best gameplay and replayability of any game I've ever played, making it my favorite game of all time. I will admit it's flawed (no game is perfect), but I'm super excited for the sequel tonight.
The devs said your choices make a diffrence to the gameplay and ofc the story i feel like they focused on the gameplay part a bit morw like dl1 but again as dl1 the gameplay will probably be amazing
I really like it
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Granted, I agree with this but I firmly believe that a relatively decent story will just reinforce the fun gameplay in the meantime
It's such a disappointment how bad the combat is compared to DL1. Combat is literally the most important part
I have a feeling this game's story is going to be like Deadrisings or Evil Dead 2. It's ridiculous and over the top on purpose- some people dont really get it, but others like myself love it
Hahaha noobies r I p kyle Crane
What was wrong with the first games story? Was fun to me.
Dying light is proof that gameplay is king. Dying light story was never the highlight but yet i have clocked hundreds of hours because it is fun as hell
to me, the story is a means to an end in dying light. i suspect that it'll be true for dying light 2 as well.
The first one was good though
Yeah the story is mediocre and at times the voice acting is sub par. But the gameplay is Uber fun. Solid 80/100 imo.
Its all about making heads explode then running up a building .
Well I feel like if the marketing of the game emphasises that the narrative IS the highlight of the game then maybe it actually should be?
bullshit
Don't care as along as I'm having fun and bashing some virals skulls I'm all good
But in this game the history was the strong Point