The refs totally deserved to get chewed the fuck out on that one. Yes, by the rule he was downfield, but he was well behind the play, did not engage with any defenders in the second level, and did not elicit any attention/coverage from a defender. If you then decided to watch the Vikings/Pats games you would have seen a number of screens where the o-line wandered nearly five yards down the field by the time the QB got rid of the ball. If the zebras don't enforce the rule on screens where the ineligible receivers are acting as lead blockers they sure as shit shouldn't enforce it where the lineman is just hanging out on an island by himself well away from the play.
I'm just gonna leave my red, white, & blue Bills gear on and say they are America Zubaz while I cheer on Team USA today. OLD ENGLAND IS GOING DOWN, GARY
A bit late to the party, Reddit was incredibly slow for me last night. But I thought Devin Singletary was brilliant again yesterday. Even in a situation where the o-line looked as if they had blown up, Singletary was still able to gain positive yards.
Wow, I can't wait for a Bills/Fins rematch, I can't believe that we're in this position, I'm a long time Dolphins fan, first time I went to the USA (British fan here) I managed to catch a home fins game against the Bills, with Jim Kelly and Dan Marino as qb's. We're good this year, but so are you guys, I've waited 30 + years to see them this good, and realistically it's these two teams going for the playoffs...it's gonna be wild!
Idk wins aren’t starting to feel like wins anymore. I get it, you’re only as good as your record. But man… These games are getting really hard to watch sometimes.
I feel the same way. I like a competitive game. But like Sunday when we were destroying for most of the game. Then almost lost it all in the 4th. And yesterday’s game was way to close for comfort.
Really hoping our busted up secondary doesn’t make this Mac kid look good next week. Dude seems to completely fucking panic when he’s blitzed so in my layman opinion we should do that a lot.
Thank you Vikings, I am still bitter about 4th and 18 but appreciate the help in taking down the Pats. Let's stick a fork in these dudes next Thursday.
I also hope that he leads them to the playoffs just to get shit on by us again. Then, they don't replace him because playoffs but are stuck being in mediocre limbo
That ball definitely hit the ground from the other angle they showed and was thus incomplete. Pats bitching about it so hard. I’ve seen the same scenario get overturned to incomplete at least twice before (once to the Ravens IIRC). I also thought it was a completion until I saw that angle.
Obviously a win is a win, but the offense did not look good today, save for the last drive. Maybe it’s Josh’s elbow causing more issues than is letting on, but they need to figure out their issues soon before these next three division games.
Honestly the last drive looking good makes me feel pretty good. They put it together when they really needed it after a weird ass week. That hug between Josh and Steph at the end spoke volumes. They’ll figure it out.
I think a lot of people are dealing with lingering injuries, a week isn't enough time to heal from the majority of even minor strains/pulls and we've been super beat up since like week 2-3.
I said this about the Jets game so maybe it'll be a jinx again but they really need to figure it out before the Dolphins game. Mac and Mike White/Joe Flacco/Mr benched in his second year aren't that scary. We need our best for Miami and Cincy and the playoffs
Twitter is a hellscape and I wish it would die already. Bills "fans" over there calling for our coaches head even though we've had nothing but success since he got here. It's not a coincidence that he broke the drought and has this team pushing for a title
Why would you ever go to post game threads on the main board?! It'll just negatively impact your positive mood after a crazy win while we were missing key players on both sides of the ball AND had a whole bunch of logistical fuckery due to the storm.
Man, good game, good win, good food, good family, no drama. This the best day I could have ever asked for..stats n all the other bs shouldn't even matter for this week, happy Bills-Giving everybody!!!
Let’s be completely fair though. The top posts in the Dolphins sub are trashing Josh Allen but all the replies are level-headed pushbacks on the original posts. The overwhelming majority of Phins fans are completely aware that we’re still a legit contender that is just going through a lull right now and that we’ll bounce back. Let’s at least be charitable here.
I don’t bother going to other teams subreddits. But the Bills are 8-3 and their losses have all been close. The Bills aren’t playing great right now but it’s rare that teams just roll through a season. Injuries have played a part with their issues. Josh has turned it over too much recently. At times they’ve abandoned the run too early. They have some issues to resolve like all teams but 8-3 is 8-3
Why are they acting like they swept us already lol Tuna hasn't played well in Buffalo yet... after seeing the Vikings last week and tonight and how bad the Jets actually are I like our chances beating anybody. Just gotta get healthy
I’ve come to realize after years of working in sports retail that there is no one amazing fanbase because crazy people live everywhere. Are there some teams I’d say I had nicer interactions with sure, but they all had some that didn’t deserve to be fans.
Came here to make point 2 and was going to write it pretty much verbatim, right down to the 4d chess followed by the "I know he didn't... ", lol. That might have been a really fortuitous miss.
Man I feel bad Josh threw another RedZone Interception! I don’t want this getting In his head but damn those cost of a lot of games . Almost another tonight ! We would have been up 24/14 with momentum.
Do we think Josh is in a rut because he’s an emotional guy who gets really upset when the bills aren’t winning and blames himself OR his elbow OR a combination of both? Or Ken Dorsey being a fucking doorknob?
It’s the offensive line. That has been the problem and it’s getting worse. Dawkins is overrated and now he is hurt. Saffold hasn’t produced much, Brown and Q are anywhere from to terrible to just bad.
He had rough patches under Daboll too. OC is just the scapegoat for these kinds of things. It's mostly just bad execution on Josh's part and that happens sometimes, nothing to lose your mind about. He's still great and Dorsey is a fine OC. I think Josh was starting to get overwhelmed by being a one man offense and put too much pressure on himself when we started slow out of the bye. Back to back wins will hopefully pull him out of the rut.
All of this. But I don't think Josh is in as bad of a rut as people say. He's still throwing dimes, he's still making huge runs. The interception problem is getting better, but also a lot of it feels like miscommunication with receivers and just them being seemingly never open
I’m as sick of making excuses for them as anyone…but holy crap…by the end of the game we were without 40% of our OL (which happened to be our two best OL in Morse and Dawkins)…AND 6/11 defensive starters (Hyde out, Tre and Elam barely played, Edmunds, Miller, and Rousseau
I feel the same way. I'm sick of us pretending like injuries don't matter. If Josh Allen actually had a serious injury and had to miss multiple weeks, this entire sub would have a meltdown and say the season is over. But missing multiple defensive starters and two starting OL has just as big of an impact. It's very clear that injuries are stretching this team thin.
Absolutely since the 3rd Qt against GB. I think his elbow gives him a zing when he has to throw like a baseball pitcher. I think when he gets to throw like an outfielder it doesn’t bother him.
Cook was great last game but was terrible today. He was running tentatively, had some chances to make plays or break tackles but failed. He dropped a ball or two.
I agree on Singletary, but Cook only rushed for 4 yards. Granted he only got 2 carries and I think losing o-lineman took away some of those outside runs that Cook normally excels in. Cook also had a couple drops (at least 1 that I vividly remember, currently in food coma).
Dane Jackson is unfortunately gonna be on a lot of receivers highlight reels after the past few weeks. Dude is always in position but never makes the play.
Important that we just keep finding ways to stack up wins while we buy time and get Josh's arm and our defense healthy. I really don't care how we do that or what it looks like. Another job done.
Thanks. Coming from a Dolphins fan, it means a lot This is Detroit's Super Bowl and they gave us a heck of a fight. You know that every win in the NFL is not given but earned. We put the Lions into a position where they needed to execute at a level they were not prepared to do consistently.
Daboll losing his shit at the ref was absolutely hilarious.
The refs totally deserved to get chewed the fuck out on that one. Yes, by the rule he was downfield, but he was well behind the play, did not engage with any defenders in the second level, and did not elicit any attention/coverage from a defender. If you then decided to watch the Vikings/Pats games you would have seen a number of screens where the o-line wandered nearly five yards down the field by the time the QB got rid of the ball. If the zebras don't enforce the rule on screens where the ineligible receivers are acting as lead blockers they sure as shit shouldn't enforce it where the lineman is just hanging out on an island by himself well away from the play.
I'm just gonna leave my red, white, & blue Bills gear on and say they are America Zubaz while I cheer on Team USA today. OLD ENGLAND IS GOING DOWN, GARY
ITS CALLED SOCCER
A bit late to the party, Reddit was incredibly slow for me last night. But I thought Devin Singletary was brilliant again yesterday. Even in a situation where the o-line looked as if they had blown up, Singletary was still able to gain positive yards.
Wow, I can't wait for a Bills/Fins rematch, I can't believe that we're in this position, I'm a long time Dolphins fan, first time I went to the USA (British fan here) I managed to catch a home fins game against the Bills, with Jim Kelly and Dan Marino as qb's. We're good this year, but so are you guys, I've waited 30 + years to see them this good, and realistically it's these two teams going for the playoffs...it's gonna be wild!
I can’t wait for the rematch.
Idk wins aren’t starting to feel like wins anymore. I get it, you’re only as good as your record. But man… These games are getting really hard to watch sometimes.
I feel the same way. I like a competitive game. But like Sunday when we were destroying for most of the game. Then almost lost it all in the 4th. And yesterday’s game was way to close for comfort.
It was a short week, half the team is injured and they still found a way to win. Every game isn’t going to be a blowout. Enjoy the win.
Mac Jones should work at a Spaghetti Factory with that noodle arm
There own fans think he has a "rag arm"
He couldn't even throw a hail Mary!
Never easy to win in the NFL, especially on the road on Thanksgiving. Good win.
Patriot fans are so damn sensitive lol. Not even a fun rivalry really. Glad the Vikings clowned them.
Glad they get to understand what Losing feels like. FTP.
Really hoping our busted up secondary doesn’t make this Mac kid look good next week. Dude seems to completely fucking panic when he’s blitzed so in my layman opinion we should do that a lot.
Hopefully Rousseau and Von are back next week. The more pressure the Bills can get on Jones without blitzing the easier time the secondary will have
I see that game playing out basically exactly like this one did
Lol at Meyers just going down on that catch
Mac Jones is so fucking bad
Yeah he's not great, but I'm not dismissing the Pats next week. Need to come out and smack them in the face
A thing of beauty. Mac couldn’t have thrown a hail Mary far enough if his life depended on it.
That was a nice check down pass on a hail mary pass by Mac Jones
FTP
It's always a great weekend when Buffalo wins and New England losses.
Thank you Vikings, I am still bitter about 4th and 18 but appreciate the help in taking down the Pats. Let's stick a fork in these dudes next Thursday.
Skol Bills! Let’s have a rematch in January!
As a Vikings fan, I root for you guys every week you don’t play us. Good luck!
Mac Jones and his clock management are something else lol
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Weird that this division is so close when Tua is the only qb other than Allen that isn’t got dog doodoo
Pats special teams having a brutal night
You love to see it
Mac has shown no improvement from last year, and appears to have regressed.
I also hope that he leads them to the playoffs just to get shit on by us again. Then, they don't replace him because playoffs but are stuck being in mediocre limbo
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That wasn’t much of a problem lmao.
McCorckle couldn’t throw a deep ball if his life depended on it
McCorkle has an average arm at best
He's a joke how was he a 1st round pick.
And Hyde woulda snagged that again
Sad Mac is best Mac
I hope they keep Mac Jones for years…
Damn, hell of an effort by aghulor
Lol was waiting all night for a classic Mac mistake
Only Mac Jone can throw such a perfect screen ❤️
Pats fans are bitching so much on the game day thread as if their special teams hasn’t been hot ass all game
Lmao ok that was some theatrical shit there by the Vikings punter that time
Is it his outfit or did Steve Belicheck gain some pounds?
Would love to see the Vikings get some point here.
I don’t hate it, but these refs have it out for the pats lol
Right. That was an obvious face mask call they missed lol
I like seeing Mills pissed off at his bad coverage of Thielen that led to a TD.
NFL sub is such a cesspool.
Man I hate when my favorite football team is 8-3. Team sucks!
Jefferson is the new Moss man
Jefferson is fucking automatic holy shit
He just never drops it
Annoying they don't even get the "mini bye" this week because NE is a Thursday game. They seem like a team that could use some rest.
Agreed, but at least the Pats are playing tonight as well, so they’ll be in the same position as us, plus we do get the mini bye, just one week later
That ball definitely hit the ground from the other angle they showed and was thus incomplete. Pats bitching about it so hard. I’ve seen the same scenario get overturned to incomplete at least twice before (once to the Ravens IIRC). I also thought it was a completion until I saw that angle.
Lol Patriots fans bitching about refs
How the turn tables.
It's the Patriot way
It's like they have so much brain damage that they forgot their dynasty started because of a gimme from the refs
Obviously a win is a win, but the offense did not look good today, save for the last drive. Maybe it’s Josh’s elbow causing more issues than is letting on, but they need to figure out their issues soon before these next three division games.
Honestly the last drive looking good makes me feel pretty good. They put it together when they really needed it after a weird ass week. That hug between Josh and Steph at the end spoke volumes. They’ll figure it out.
"They need to figure out their issues": the issues are the QB is injured and on 4 days of rest after a snowstorm that stopped the team from practicing
I think a lot of people are dealing with lingering injuries, a week isn't enough time to heal from the majority of even minor strains/pulls and we've been super beat up since like week 2-3.
That was blatant pass interference lmao, the ref was literally right fucking there too.
Crazy how we seem to get teams to play us at 110% effort for their game of the year, and then they proceed to play like shit.
Goes to show we put up a solid fight against teams that put 110%
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Patriots just did.
I sincerely hope we figure out our secondary and whatever weirdness is going on with the offensive play calling before next week
I said this about the Jets game so maybe it'll be a jinx again but they really need to figure it out before the Dolphins game. Mac and Mike White/Joe Flacco/Mr benched in his second year aren't that scary. We need our best for Miami and Cincy and the playoffs
Tre White and Kaiir Elam need to be starting at outside CB and not Dane Jackson and Christian Benford.
I mean, fuck the pats but the refs are sure letting the vikes get away with anything... once again
You like that !
holy shit.
bruh.. Vikings defence looks booty
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Bro this Vikings defense is a fucking joke, how did we lose to these guys?
Allen had 3 turnovers and Cock Cousins only had 2
Beat ourselves in that game
Allen playing like 💩 for a month really cost us 2 wins against really mid teams..
To go deep you gotta win games like this, even if it ain't pretty.
Love the Madden tributes
Yea agreed, just took a trip down memory lane through the generations
Don’t care how, that’s a W. F the Pats!
Twitter is a hellscape and I wish it would die already. Bills "fans" over there calling for our coaches head even though we've had nothing but success since he got here. It's not a coincidence that he broke the drought and has this team pushing for a title
I mean...you don't have to actually pay attention to that
Who is that guy that looks just like Stefon in the Meta Quest commercial?
Lol! I said the same thing
Maybe I missed it, but what happened to Dawkins today?
Thought I heard them say ankle injury, but it was loud as hell at our thanksgiving gathering so not sure
A lot of
Why would you ever go to post game threads on the main board?! It'll just negatively impact your positive mood after a crazy win while we were missing key players on both sides of the ball AND had a whole bunch of logistical fuckery due to the storm.
Man, good game, good win, good food, good family, no drama. This the best day I could have ever asked for..stats n all the other bs shouldn't even matter for this week, happy Bills-Giving everybody!!!
Watching the Vikings vs Pats game. Holy fuck that kid Jefferson is going to be a problem for the NFC when he hits his prime…. What a player
It ain't the NBA, I'd say he's in his prime now.
I fucking hate this Jefferson catch. Cam lewis literally caught it for him and then handed it to him.
I know man. I know.. lol
They better have Bass kick it out of the end zone next week on every kickoff. The pats return guy is dangerous
Super happy we got the W, don’t care how ugly but damn the tackling has been frustrating.
Chiefs fan here. I haven’t heard anything about Von Miller. Nothing serious I hope. He’s been big. 🤘🏻
Thank you kind sir. I don’t think it’ll be anything serious
Super happy we got the W, don’t care how ugly but damn the tackling has been frustrating.
The Patriots are getting bailed out by high end talent.
Kirk sucks
Blatant holding on the RT on that 3rd down play.
Atta boy Harry
I had no idea the Patriots had a winning record
Let’s be completely fair though. The top posts in the Dolphins sub are trashing Josh Allen but all the replies are level-headed pushbacks on the original posts. The overwhelming majority of Phins fans are completely aware that we’re still a legit contender that is just going through a lull right now and that we’ll bounce back. Let’s at least be charitable here.
I don’t bother going to other teams subreddits. But the Bills are 8-3 and their losses have all been close. The Bills aren’t playing great right now but it’s rare that teams just roll through a season. Injuries have played a part with their issues. Josh has turned it over too much recently. At times they’ve abandoned the run too early. They have some issues to resolve like all teams but 8-3 is 8-3
Why are they acting like they swept us already lol Tuna hasn't played well in Buffalo yet... after seeing the Vikings last week and tonight and how bad the Jets actually are I like our chances beating anybody. Just gotta get healthy
Everyone mentioning the negativity towards the bills in
I’ve come to realize after years of working in sports retail that there is no one amazing fanbase because crazy people live everywhere. Are there some teams I’d say I had nicer interactions with sure, but they all had some that didn’t deserve to be fans.
So at this point now the hijacking of your brain should be over. You should be feeling more like yourself again. Welcome back.
Hats off to the boys for a gritty W.
Came here to make point 2 and was going to write it pretty much verbatim, right down to the 4d chess followed by the "I know he didn't... ", lol. That might have been a really fortuitous miss.
A few of those tackles, especially the one toward the end, were fucking huge
Top 3 posts on the fins subreddit is trashing Josh Allen. He lives in their heads rent free. They're a class act fanbase
Reminiscent of Pats fans last year
I cannot wait for that game in December .
Go Vikings!
I enoy watching exciting, close games but this is getting too much. My heart can't take this every week.
Man I feel bad Josh threw another RedZone Interception! I don’t want this getting In his head but damn those cost of a lot of games . Almost another tonight ! We would have been up 24/14 with momentum.
Yo that isn't wasn't a bad throw or decision, just a good Def play. JA17 should lose zero sleep over that.
What a game! It took everything in my power for my grandma not to hear me say "FUCK FUCK FUCK!"
I scared the shit out of my family yelling when we got the safety lmao
Lol same.
Do we think Josh is in a rut because he’s an emotional guy who gets really upset when the bills aren’t winning and blames himself OR his elbow OR a combination of both? Or Ken Dorsey being a fucking doorknob?
No slot receiver to speak of has been problematic.
It's a combination of OL injuries and Dorsey being an inexperienced OC.
It’s the offensive line. That has been the problem and it’s getting worse. Dawkins is overrated and now he is hurt. Saffold hasn’t produced much, Brown and Q are anywhere from to terrible to just bad.
He had rough patches under Daboll too. OC is just the scapegoat for these kinds of things. It's mostly just bad execution on Josh's part and that happens sometimes, nothing to lose your mind about. He's still great and Dorsey is a fine OC. I think Josh was starting to get overwhelmed by being a one man offense and put too much pressure on himself when we started slow out of the bye. Back to back wins will hopefully pull him out of the rut.
I think that throw to diggs at the end of the game will get him out of his rut
All of this. But I don't think Josh is in as bad of a rut as people say. He's still throwing dimes, he's still making huge runs. The interception problem is getting better, but also a lot of it feels like miscommunication with receivers and just them being seemingly never open
I’m as sick of making excuses for them as anyone…but holy crap…by the end of the game we were without 40% of our OL (which happened to be our two best OL in Morse and Dawkins)…AND 6/11 defensive starters (Hyde out, Tre and Elam barely played, Edmunds, Miller, and Rousseau
I can't remember the last season where we were hit with the injury bug this bad.
I feel the same way. I'm sick of us pretending like injuries don't matter. If Josh Allen actually had a serious injury and had to miss multiple weeks, this entire sub would have a meltdown and say the season is over. But missing multiple defensive starters and two starting OL has just as big of an impact. It's very clear that injuries are stretching this team thin.
Singletary continues to look very good. Cook was good as well. Seems like hiring that new OL Coach could be paying dividends.
Absolutely since the 3rd Qt against GB. I think his elbow gives him a zing when he has to throw like a baseball pitcher. I think when he gets to throw like an outfielder it doesn’t bother him.
Cook was great last game but was terrible today. He was running tentatively, had some chances to make plays or break tackles but failed. He dropped a ball or two.
I agree on Singletary, but Cook only rushed for 4 yards. Granted he only got 2 carries and I think losing o-lineman took away some of those outside runs that Cook normally excels in. Cook also had a couple drops (at least 1 that I vividly remember, currently in food coma).
I’m guessing it has something to do with arm angles. The short passes require more diverse angles for certain windows.
Dane Jackson is unfortunately gonna be on a lot of receivers highlight reels after the past few weeks. Dude is always in position but never makes the play.
Sorry guys but I'm not seeing much info about Von Miller, do we know anything?
Early reports are knee sprain, more testing to come though
MRI tomorrow
Bloom has come off the giants rose
They aren’t a Super Bowl contender but they are still solid and improved. Have a chance to make the playoffs
I love the Bills
Important that we just keep finding ways to stack up wins while we buy time and get Josh's arm and our defense healthy. I really don't care how we do that or what it looks like. Another job done.
Spending thanksgiving with the fam and my BIL is from Detroit. It’s been quite a day. 🤣
All we will remember is the number added to our win column come January. Being able to win games when you play like shit isn’t easy
Exactly. They don’t ask how you won games, just if you did or not.
I have been banned from the Dolphins subreddit for making a very mild comment defending our squad.
Don’t go to the chiefs sub. Bunch of idiots over there acting like they didn’t like Malik Willis bring them to OT a few weeks back lmao
Chiefs fans are a little salty after our win today.
Seriously they are extra bad this year
I just finished watching the game again and Jackson was even worse the second time. Just an awful game from him.
Yea what was Romo talking about?
If he can be coached to turn his head around he’d be the best CB in the NFL.
Lions are a good team, i refuse to back down from that stance.
Agree. They have a lot of talent and they played really hard again. They probably deserved to win but we are just tougher down the stretch.
Lost a lot of close games this year. Definitely improved over previous years. Lions could be a surprise next year if they keep this up.
Dude, they were homers on a 3 game streak. Keep stacking wins.
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Congrats, you will get banned from your own sub for this comment now! :)
Imagine having nothing better to do on Thanksgiving than be a sarcastic loser on another teams subreddit, on a day your team didn’t even play.
Thanks. Coming from a Dolphins fan, it means a lot This is Detroit's Super Bowl and they gave us a heck of a fight. You know that every win in the NFL is not given but earned. We put the Lions into a position where they needed to execute at a level they were not prepared to do consistently.
Thanks!
Says the guy whose team is playing checks notes ... Houston.
Go back to Miami bro. Let’s see what happens when we play in Buffalo in December
Shit, looks like we play next Thursday. Can’t even get the 10 day rest.
We get it after next Thursday which I’m sure will help.
Patriots don't get a ten day rest either and then we get a ten day rest. Honestly ideal
Anyone got a snap count on Tre? Had family dinner mid game wasn't able to pay much attention
Bro my family also put dinner in the middle of this game.
15 I think McDermott said. Could’ve fooled me though. I feel like he wasn’t even in the game. His absence is definitely felt.
I think he only did 2 plays
praying for Von to come back to us ASAP
Please let Von be ok
I'm from the present.
Lions are no joke.. no really.. seriously.. for real… no really im not kidding, yeah real life… no joke.. the Lions… really
Ok so don't let it surprise you when they are playing for a wild card spot at the end of the season.
I’m thankful that we broke the white top / blue bottom jersey combination curse, and for Thai food delivery.
What are you talking about? Our best defensive player got hurt. We didn’t break any curse.
Our star edge hurt his knee tonight.
You did at least get turkey pad Thai right? RIGHT.
It’s November. I don’t care how we’re winning just so long as we are, save the pretty football for when the serious stuff begins
This is the correct take. Pats with Brady had a lot of ugly wins, BUT THEY WERE WINS.
It actually might have been more beneficial for the Bills that Bass missed that extra point.