The NFA and the Hughes amendment, terrible laws as they are, were made by laws by elected officials. Aspects of them have been interpreted incorrectly by the ATF career bureaucrats, yes, but nothing in the pattern of rulings would overturn the NFA or Hughes amendment.
Fascism is when the common citizenry are well armed. The more well armed the common citizenry are, the more Fascistic it is. - Ya boy Mussolini coming straight to Rome
what part of "Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary” is hard to understand?
Well it's the old adage of "If you represent me it's democratic, if not you're a whatever-ist/phobic worse than Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot combined and we live in the 4th Reich"
For a group that whines about fascism and insurrections a lot they sure do love advocating for political violence when the system doesn't always rule in their favor.
I've been saying for a while you could probably get some reasonable gun control measures passed (if that's what they're going to do) by making it a bit harder to obtain the gun but getting rid of a lot of the red tape after you already own one. Why is it harder to buy a suppressor than the gun itself.
MA too. May issue (Governor said they were ignoring the SCOTUS ruling), 10 rd mag limit, assault weapons ban, an approved roster of guns you're allowed to buy managed by the AG, LTC required for ammo, and tons of cities giving crazy restrictions on all LTCs.
Also, if it gets appealed to the Supreme Court again and they rule against the courts favor, that ruling can then be applied nationwide rather than just from circuit to circuit
Even pepper spray is illegal in the UK, lmao. It never stops at just guns. Lose ‘em and you completely lose any and all rights and ability to self defense in any form.
The funny thing is, you can still roll around with medieval weapons, which are much much more dangerous than some beta knife or machete. Imagine the “that’s not a knife, this is a knife” scene with a steak knife and a Scottish claymore.
You know, I like to make fun of Americans as the next euro, but I can't fault you guys for that tea-into-harbour business. The only people vile enough to deserve British governance and laws are the British themselves - and even that is debatable.
NY already is passing a bill that rules out conceal carry pretty much everywhere and makes it nearly impossible to get your permit. They don't give a hot gay fuck.
At some point we're going to need to Amend the Constitution or have congress actually pass a law that enforces provisions against directly violating the constitution as a government official.
I saw a 240B at my local gun shop a week ago and was like "neat", then I looked closer and it was semi-auto and $14k. If America was really free it'd be auto and I'd be able to afford it.
Whether you agree with what the SCOTUS is doing or not, you have to admit it's impressive to see politics moving this fast rather than stuck in a deadlocked, filibustered, vetoed endless loop of 0 meaningful change
That’s my real issue with all this. SCOTUS knows that anything and everything will be obstructed. Especially anything the democrats try to do McConnell has made it his mission in life to stop. To the point of just being a smarmy hypocrite constantly. So SCOTUS is willing to put more chaos in the mix based on ideological lines that directly conflict with precedent. I’m not totally sure they are wrong on a lot of these I just know that our founding document isn’t a modern one and frankly isn’t equipped for the modern world. And we’re open to the whims of justices instead of having definitive problem solving in our public systems. It’s a recipe for disaster and we seem to be hell bent on cooking that dish. In short: Republicans think “we would rather the country collapse than have Democrats be in charge” and Democrats think “they’re so mean, vote for us to keep limping along barely able to keep the status quo”.
The entire point of SCOTUS is to be apolitical. So no it’s not impressive at all, it’s a twisted bizzaro version of what the 3 branches of government are supposed to be
Seriously, how hard is it for people to understand SCOTUS isn't legislating, they don't have that power. People are calling them literally Hitler, when all they are doing is hearing cases and determining whether they should be entertained under the constitution or not.
the people complaining about SCOTUS literally don't care about following the constitution. The only thing that matters to those types is their political will being realized.
Yeah let’s make mental healthcare universal because surely we can’t expect mentally ill people to be able to hold down a job well enough to afford it themselves. Only a complete retard would think someone with a crippling mental illness should be able to take care of themselves like a fully functioning adult, right?
This may be the one thing this conservative-ass SCOTUS does that's actually decent. Though I'm from the South, so gun confiscation policies will likely never affect me.
A little pedantic, but it's worth noting that they're not hearing these new cases. They were cases that were brought up to the Court during the last session. SCOTUS basically said that because of the Buren ruling, these cases are getting sent back down to their Circuit's Appeals Court and told to be reconsidered by those Courts using the new gun ruling to inform a new decision.
I can't wait to see our gun laws challenged. Especially after Healey and Baker had the gall to come out after the SCOTUS ruling and basically say they were going to fully ignore it and continue their permitting process as usual. Would love to see all this State's anti-gun politicians taken down a few pegs.
Wording is confusing, this is describing how the court sent cases back to lower courts to re-examine, not saying SCOTUS is themselves looking at them, no?
This is correct. The ruling will only apply to the District they rule in. But it is interesting because SCOTUS is basically telling the Courts their original ruling upholding those bans were wrong and they need to rule on them again using Buren as their basis. So SCOTUS clearly thinks AWBs and mag limits aren't constitutional. I expect other lawsuits to come about in other districts because of this.
Most of the Time SCOTUS decisions these days are in really arcane areas of Constitutional Law, such as Tribal Land vs State Land. Or in Water Rights disputes between various states, or Commerce Claus discussions. Etc.
Usually nobody ever does anything, but your guess is as good as mine for why it’s happening. Even my crackpot conspiracy theories can’t really make sense of it.
If they throw the hammer down on the stupid fin grips and barrel length requirements in California I will never doubt the Republican ability to get shit done again. Even though I tend to prefer gridlock in government, the last week of SCOTUS rulings has been TASTY
We’ll see where this goes. Wouldn’t be surprised if this is simply a non-comment being blown up by a headline to take advantage of the current anti-SCOTUS rage-click wave
Let’s goooo. Omw to buy a bootleg AR-15 with no serial number from my favorite manufacturer in Pakistan. (Pakistanis make high-tech homemade military grade equipment in random village blacksmith shops)
Fuck the nfa fuck the firearms protection act fuck every firearm law that has passed since 1776 that bars any type of gun from any person hell give felons gun rights. If you dont truat a felon with a gun why trust them on the outside with other human beings? Oh yeah i forgot people cant get guns illegally. Edit: tax stamps are also classist barring the less fortunate from there fully semi automatics smh
I'm sure the Politics subreddit will be taking this news well, lol.
First its funny to watch them seethe. Then you realize these people vote
the top post is an article about how SCOTUS is performing a coup lmao it’s absurd
It'll probably be a couple weeks before they stop screaming about abortion first
NFA YOUR NEXT!
Glowies already planning the next shooting
I’m betting this SCOTUS would take up the case if someone brought suit.
God I've got a Semi just thinking about that
You’re*
Read Kavanaugh's concurrence. He and Roberts are down to clown with licenses and all kinds of dumb bullshit.
Stop! I can only get so erect
If that gets overturned, I will blow a load so hard my nuts will become a singularity.
One can only hope
Yes please
Please dear lord baby jesus.
I just want to buy suppressors without a tax stamp and 12 month delay. Is that so crazy?
The NFA and the Hughes amendment, terrible laws as they are, were made by laws by elected officials. Aspects of them have been interpreted incorrectly by the ATF career bureaucrats, yes, but nothing in the pattern of rulings would overturn the NFA or Hughes amendment.
I FUCKING WISH
Watermelons; Is this fascism?
I have watermelon friends on IG posting that removing 2A restrictions is somehow authoritarian and a precursor to fascism.
Fascism is when the common citizenry are well armed. The more well armed the common citizenry are, the more Fascistic it is. - Ya boy Mussolini coming straight to Rome
what part of "Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary” is hard to understand?
Lol
Honestly, I’m ok with this, especially if it leads to American people owning Machine Guns.
We should all thank Ruth Bader Ginsburg for making all of this possible.
It’s almost poetic how she went from hero to zero on Reddit
I mean honestly we can all thank Obama for roasting on Trump at the '11 WH correspondent's dinner.
🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀
wtf I love RBG now?
Harry Reid deserves a lotta credit for that nuclear option as well
I'm out of the loop, what did RBG do?
THEYLL SEARCH HIGH AND THEYLL SEARCH LOW
THEY'LL LOOK EVERYWHERE WE GO
THEY"LL LOOK EVERYWHERE WE GO.
Based and do your fucking jobs pilled
reading the politics sub they're going off the deep end calling scotus a fascist junta and only violence can solve it now...
“This is the end of democracy!” After SCOTUS rules that laws should be made by the people’s elective representatives and not the court.
ah yes the mark of fascism is... arming the populace
Political violence is only based when my party advocates for it
Well it's the old adage of "If you represent me it's democratic, if not you're a whatever-ist/phobic worse than Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot combined and we live in the 4th Reich"
Lol they're reaching levels of Mental Gymnastics only An Angry Austrian with a Silly Mustache achieved.
Funny considering most of what they’re doing is limiting the power of the federal government
Fascist junta? Well then why do I gotta keep listening to dumbshits like them 🤔
Fascist junta is when appointed and approved judges overturn 50 year old cases.
Remember the official reason for banning TD was two downvotes comments advocating for violence against police
Letting citizens get guns and weakening the power of the federal government is literally fascism
America: has a constitution
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For a group that whines about fascism and insurrections a lot they sure do love advocating for political violence when the system doesn't always rule in their favor.
Weird how calling for violence is ok
violence with what?
Hopefully goodbye ATF, fingers crossed
Yesterdays EPA ruling castrated the alphabet agencies.
I've been saying for a while you could probably get some reasonable gun control measures passed (if that's what they're going to do) by making it a bit harder to obtain the gun but getting rid of a lot of the red tape after you already own one. Why is it harder to buy a suppressor than the gun itself.
Damn right, repeal the nfa
Agreed. My pfp will for now, not fire an air to ground missile at you.
Abolish NFTs
Dear Scotus,
Also, let’s do Virginia as well please. Thank you
Sorry you will be stuck with your FOID forever buddy.
Yeah getting rid of the FOID stuff and NFA restrictions are would be pretty rad. At least I was able to get my concealed carry after waiting 117 days.
Noooooo you can't! Just imagine if the Chicago gangs could get their hands on guns!
Fuck I hope so
MA too. May issue (Governor said they were ignoring the SCOTUS ruling), 10 rd mag limit, assault weapons ban, an approved roster of guns you're allowed to buy managed by the AG, LTC required for ammo, and tons of cities giving crazy restrictions on all LTCs.
Compulsory TEC-9 issuance in pre-school.
"You get a TEC-9, you get a TEC-9, everybody gets a TEC-9!"
This is SCOTUS being nice. They're politely telling the lower courts:
Also, if it gets appealed to the Supreme Court again and they rule against the courts favor, that ruling can then be applied nationwide rather than just from circuit to circuit
Thanks fuck this government still has one patriot left
Gun control is the first step towards UK style knife laws.
Oi mate, yew gotta loicense fer tha screwdrivah?
Br*ts would freak out to see the average gas station in the south
They go so far as to specify a "zombie knife" as an illegal item.
Even pepper spray is illegal in the UK, lmao. It never stops at just guns. Lose ‘em and you completely lose any and all rights and ability to self defense in any form.
Oi mate, you got a loicence for that knife
The funny thing is, you can still roll around with medieval weapons, which are much much more dangerous than some beta knife or machete. Imagine the “that’s not a knife, this is a knife” scene with a steak knife and a Scottish claymore.
You know, I like to make fun of Americans as the next euro, but I can't fault you guys for that tea-into-harbour business. The only people vile enough to deserve British governance and laws are the British themselves - and even that is debatable.
NY already is passing a bill that rules out conceal carry pretty much everywhere and makes it nearly impossible to get your permit. They don't give a hot gay fuck.
And they're saying private businesses are by default no gun zones unless they actively put up a sign saying that guns are welcome.
At some point we're going to need to Amend the Constitution or have congress actually pass a law that enforces provisions against directly violating the constitution as a government official.
Realistically those courts will just waste a bunch of time and come to the same conclusions through even more tortured reasoning.
They're going to be held in contempt of court at this rate.
Let them. Send it back to SCOTUS so they can get pp slapped again and set more national precedent.
I unironically think I should be allowed to buy a fully automatic M240B and you should too.
Don’t forget grenades mlrs and high explosive howitzer shells
I saw a 240B at my local gun shop a week ago and was like "neat", then I looked closer and it was semi-auto and $14k. If America was really free it'd be auto and I'd be able to afford it.
You say that like it will be unpopular here
I would absolutely love to shoot a vintage Tommy gun without my dogs getting shot by the ATF
Fuck it. I'm installing a pintle mount on the roof of my VW microbus.
Not good enough, I should be able to buy a Carrier strike group and you should too.
You should be able to, just like everyone else
Let’s go back to mail order machine guns.
Whether you agree with what the SCOTUS is doing or not, you have to admit it's impressive to see politics moving this fast rather than stuck in a deadlocked, filibustered, vetoed endless loop of 0 meaningful change
I mean, I guess? The legislative body is still deadlocked, filibustered, and vetoed in an obstructionist loop; so it's not like much has changed.
Replace congress with 9 people who answer to no one and only need to achieve a simple majority and yeah a lot can get done.
i mean yeah but that’s bc the majority of the court is republicans and they all have very similar ideologies😭
“it’s impressive that 9 unelected people are making grand decisions for the country that are literally always 6-3 given the nature of politics”
That’s my real issue with all this. SCOTUS knows that anything and everything will be obstructed. Especially anything the democrats try to do McConnell has made it his mission in life to stop. To the point of just being a smarmy hypocrite constantly. So SCOTUS is willing to put more chaos in the mix based on ideological lines that directly conflict with precedent. I’m not totally sure they are wrong on a lot of these I just know that our founding document isn’t a modern one and frankly isn’t equipped for the modern world. And we’re open to the whims of justices instead of having definitive problem solving in our public systems. It’s a recipe for disaster and we seem to be hell bent on cooking that dish. In short: Republicans think “we would rather the country collapse than have Democrats be in charge” and Democrats think “they’re so mean, vote for us to keep limping along barely able to keep the status quo”.
The entire point of SCOTUS is to be apolitical. So no it’s not impressive at all, it’s a twisted bizzaro version of what the 3 branches of government are supposed to be
I’m starting to think Trump was right. I may actually get tired of winning.
True.
Even when he looses, he wins
It’s lost its luster long ago, but it does give a sense of contentedness.
Don’t talk to me until I can buy automatic weapons without a class 3 weapons permit
A Free Person does not ask.
You can. Pre-86.
I also want to build guns in my garage and sell them with out an FFL. Is that too much to ask?
Supreme Court has been becoming quite based lately
The Thomas effect
I don't get the MAGA wojak in this.
If I had a nickel for every time I saw a wojak that made no sense on this sub, I still wouldn’t be rich, but I would have 20$
I enjoy making fun of them, just that.
Let’s fucking gooooooo
THIS IS LITERAL FASCISM
🔫 shall not be Infringed
I hate most of their recent decisions, but I am glad gun rights are going to expand
Doubt it
Their gun rights decision makes perfect sense, requiring states to apply an objective standard.
It's a good time for gun rights to expand. Abortion bans are government tyranny.
I personally have found all their decisions to be incredibly just and sound in constitutionality and logic
These are my thoughts as well, expanding gun rights was great, if not expected, but really not a fan of the other ones
Seriously, how hard is it for people to understand SCOTUS isn't legislating, they don't have that power. People are calling them literally Hitler, when all they are doing is hearing cases and determining whether they should be entertained under the constitution or not.
The 9th amendment is the issue with what you're saying. Rights don't cease to exist because they weren't written down explicitly.
Sir, this is reddit. Sane reasoning and factual statements aren't allowed.
Based and actually understands Judicial Review pilled
the people complaining about SCOTUS literally don't care about following the constitution. The only thing that matters to those types is their political will being realized.
I love this new supreme court, one of few things Trump did well
Gorsuch may be my favorite Justice ever. Originalism ftw.
Just saying it takes a fucking insane person to shoot a crowd.
that’s one thing they oughta work on. after mass shooting events they always say we should look into mental health and they never do.
Yeah let’s make mental healthcare universal because surely we can’t expect mentally ill people to be able to hold down a job well enough to afford it themselves. Only a complete retard would think someone with a crippling mental illness should be able to take care of themselves like a fully functioning adult, right?
Maybe they should revisit the NFA 👁 👄 👁
This may be the one thing this conservative-ass SCOTUS does that's actually decent. Though I'm from the South, so gun confiscation policies will likely never affect me.
A little pedantic, but it's worth noting that they're not hearing these new cases. They were cases that were brought up to the Court during the last session. SCOTUS basically said that because of the Buren ruling, these cases are getting sent back down to their Circuit's Appeals Court and told to be reconsidered by those Courts using the new gun ruling to inform a new decision.
Yep, but it's a step in the right direction though.
Don't forget Massachusetts!
I can't wait to see our gun laws challenged. Especially after Healey and Baker had the gall to come out after the SCOTUS ruling and basically say they were going to fully ignore it and continue their permitting process as usual. Would love to see all this State's anti-gun politicians taken down a few pegs.
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SCOTUS collecting dubs like Brady collecting rings
Wording is confusing, this is describing how the court sent cases back to lower courts to re-examine, not saying SCOTUS is themselves looking at them, no?
This is correct. The ruling will only apply to the District they rule in. But it is interesting because SCOTUS is basically telling the Courts their original ruling upholding those bans were wrong and they need to rule on them again using Buren as their basis. So SCOTUS clearly thinks AWBs and mag limits aren't constitutional. I expect other lawsuits to come about in other districts because of this.
DISSOLVE THE ATF. NONE OF THE THINGS THEY POLICE ARE EVEN ILLEGAL ANYMORE.
dissolve the CIA
Does the SCOTUS always do this much? I have literally barely heard about any of their rulings in the past 5 years till recently
Most of the Time SCOTUS decisions these days are in really arcane areas of Constitutional Law, such as Tribal Land vs State Land. Or in Water Rights disputes between various states, or Commerce Claus discussions. Etc.
Usually nobody ever does anything, but your guess is as good as mine for why it’s happening. Even my crackpot conspiracy theories can’t really make sense of it.
For years I’ve thought gun lawns in certain states seemed unconstitutional. Good to see the Supreme Court agrees
Hey...at least the broken clock is right twice a day.
If they throw the hammer down on the stupid fin grips and barrel length requirements in California I will never doubt the Republican ability to get shit done again. Even though I tend to prefer gridlock in government, the last week of SCOTUS rulings has been TASTY
I fucking love how this is happening while the left is largely in control right now so orange can only blame the supreme court
Abolish the atf
LESSS GOOO
Gen Z commies: the government giving people guns is literally fascism
Fuck yeah dude. I wanna be able to buy an AR-15 from Walmart, like in the good 'ol days.
Ok cool - so when are we repealing the NFA and CGA?
immaculately based
Maybe I'm a stupid lefty but why the watermelon crying?
Watermelons generally don't like guns and favor more restrictions. This is of course not a universal rule tho.
LET’S GO!!!!!!!!!!
I would like the Roberti–Roos Assault Weapons Control Act of 1989 to be done away in California so I can legally own an FN FAL.
leftshit status: owned
I love the smell of freedom in the morning. It smells like... Eurotears.
They didn’t even rule on the CA assault weapon ban, they sent it back and it feels like they’re giving the lower courts another opportunity to fuck us
We’ll see where this goes. Wouldn’t be surprised if this is simply a non-comment being blown up by a headline to take advantage of the current anti-SCOTUS rage-click wave
They're apparently sending some cases back to lower courts after the NY ruling to see if they want to reconsider their decision.
Let’s goooo. Omw to buy a bootleg AR-15 with no serial number from my favorite manufacturer in Pakistan. (Pakistanis make high-tech homemade military grade equipment in random village blacksmith shops)
Khyber Pass does make some wierd shit sometimes though
3/4 quads can agree this is based, I will take my victories where I can
WOO! May wait on that new rifle. The cost may drop.
Based and bill of rights pilled
WA mag ban about to get 86'd lessss gooooo.
Let's get a reciprocity issue in front of this court. Full faith and credit in my License to drive, to marry, and to carry.
Based court
Come ooooon daddy needs a tommy gun lol
Come on SCOTUS, make magazine limitations non-constitutional.
Will I be able to own a rotary grenade launcher at the end of all this?
Under no pretext?
Fuck yeah
SCOTUS has been on a tear lately and I for one am lovin’ it
Holy shit SCOTUS is making rounds, this is like the 5th unrelated thing I heard SCOTUS talk about in the last week
Thank you lord above and I don’t care which
The Supreme Court is really taking both pills huh
SCOTUS setting up the ppl wit more means to fight against government tyranny. U love to see it
THROW ILLINOIS IN THERE TOO
Bruh, it's so cold there in winter lol
fingers crossed
Fuck the nfa fuck the firearms protection act fuck every firearm law that has passed since 1776 that bars any type of gun from any person hell give felons gun rights. If you dont truat a felon with a gun why trust them on the outside with other human beings? Oh yeah i forgot people cant get guns illegally. Edit: tax stamps are also classist barring the less fortunate from there fully semi automatics smh