1. This would be the perfect kinda job for someone like me. Im a sound engineer and musician without a full time job. People like us should be sought out for some of these positions, we’ve got the time, the gear and usually a pretty good speaking voice!

  2. It’s really not easy, if it was something you weren’t even studying, that info can get mixed up in your head together and can seriously effect your studying. You did you a really good thing my guy Edit: spelling

  3. If there was a bar exam, she probably would but there is no exam here, yea in Turkey. To become a lawyer all u have to do is graduate from law school. Bcs u can go to private schools in Turkey and buy urself a diplomas for money. And u cant win an exam just for money. This aunty and her doughter, in all this rottenness, made me happy. Hope they are happy too.

  4. I agree with you 100%, higher education should be accessible to everyone. This took place in Turkey, and it's actually pretty modern there in the urban areas, but they might not have the same facilities that are available in more western countries.

  5. Blind lawyer checking in. This story is absolutely awful while being very heartwarming. There are countless relatively cheap ways to make higher ed more accessible. And for the price tag on law school, I’m sure they have the money to spare.

  6. Serious question. How likely is it that this woman will be able to have a productive career in law? Isn't like 95% of the job reading, physical categorization, and note taking?

  7. Yeah but not like my college that has ramps to access the 4 store building that is the basic module of engineering.... no elevators and no classrooms in the bottom floor but at least people in wheelchairs can hang in the lobby.

  8. Even then, the accommodations need to be reasonable enough that they can be provided in a workplace. As cold as this may sound, there's not point in educating her to that level - and presumable taking on debt to it - if she won't realistically be able to use her degree.

  9. Yup, in fact, this is a sad story. The mother isn't supposed to use her time for something the school is supposed to provide. It also means that the mother doesn't have a job. Not s good thing either. Unless she's retired,I don't know.

  10. There is a lot for people with disabilities however, a lot of the time it’s the professors (there’s usually at least in the USA a disability office and they have a shit ton of equipment (I was a student who used it) including recorders) however, I barely was able to use my things because my professors were dicks and wouldn’t let me record and when I’d tell the office they’d say “I’m sorry if they say no you can’t” it’s like BRUH WTF I’m not blind I just don’t have fast hands and can’t type or listen fast enough because of dick head professors I ended up flunking out bc I couldn’t keep up.

  11. I went to high school in Finland with a blind girl, she had a machine that wrote dot writing for her, so she could totally read an e-book and follow in class. She graduated with good papers, even managed to study geometry in math with surprising success. I think now she is studying to be a teacher.

  12. I was wondering if she had access to AT bc her mom should not have had to do that. There are devices and services for her.

  13. Exactly what i was thinking, remarkable story and it should not have to happen, we as a society (wherever we are) need to speak up for our fellow humans 💜

  14. Higher education is such a weird space where they want to pretend they are accessible to everyone but they just aren’t whether that be because of class or disability status.

  15. I don't know where this story is from, but ever university/college in the US will provide Audio Books, a reader, a guide, and more for students with visual impairments. These are covered under the IDEA and every school that excepts gov funning is under it (the Pell grant counts, so even private universities).

  16. No, people need to be realistic. What's the point in reading everything to her so that she can get a degree and then TOTALLY fail at being a lawyer? How is she meant to read her clients emails? How is she meant to read cases? Law is one of the most booky subjects.

  17. This is an old picture/story. I do wonder what happened with the mom and if the fact that the degree was honorary prevents her from taking he bar

  18. And we still have a ways to go. I had a blind classmate that sometimes had to have another climate help him when the person assigned to him could be there or he wouldn't get his textbooks transcribed in time for him to use in class.

  19. Props to her, but to be fair, law is probably one of the worst things to study for a blind person. Almost all jobs that you can get with a law degree will involve a lot of reading, reviewing photo evidence, all of which you can't to nearly as easily as a blind person.

  20. There is a judge in San Diego who's blind, so it's definitely not impossible. He helped our debate team when I was in High School. This is just what I found online.

  21. Pretty sure she knows it’s not going to be easy. She did you know, attend law school which is known for being just a smidge difficult. And accommodations exist. Even if the accommodations may seem excessive to you, every person regardless of ability deserves to be able to reach their goals. Instead of remarking on how difficult it will be, applaud her for courage and hard work.

  22. Exactly. Some mothers are irreplaceable. Many people do not get decent mothers. And the mother in this post is quite exceptional, certainly not the norm.

  23. I promise I’m not trying to be a dick here but if you can’t ready the law textbooks how tf are you going to be a lawyer? Like 90% of the job is seeing words on paper.

  24. *90% of the job is words. There is no need to see them, or for them to be on paper. As long as you can comprehend them, you can do the job. That is easily achievable with screenreaders reading the digital version (or digitalized version) of whatever is on the paper.

  25. Fair point, but having a law degree doesn't mean that you are going to be a defence attorney. There are tons o paralegal jobs, where a blind person could be really successful at. A blind student from Greece got a degree in physics a few years ago. There was a great discussion about that the department could not facilitate him, due to experiments. He is now working on his PhD in Germany, on theoretical physics, if I'm not mistaken.

  26. My first thought to. So the mom propped her up in school, is the mom going to prop her up in court too? It's basically a story about enabling/enfeebling...

  27. No but we don't want to look at the realistic senerio this woman has put herself in, just that she did it, so we can smile and move on with our days without giving it a second thought

  28. and my mom hasnt spoke to me in 3 years and then you have a mom like this who actually loves her child and wants them to succeed. what an inspiration.

  29. As often in this sub, yes, it's wholesome she did that and received this degree. But how fucked up is it that a law degree isn't accessible through braille / audio books to blind students? How much do you pay for law degrees already?

  30. Not to be negative but is she going to read aloud all of the exhibits and documents to her while she’s a lawyer too?

  31. If he's a reasonably good lawyer she can hire staff to do that. as it turns out finding someone who can read isn't so difficult.

  32. It's 2022, all documents should be digitally archieved and we've been having assistive technology such as screen readers for a while now.

  33. People with mothers this amazing don’t know how good they really have it. I’m not saying they’re spoiled or undeserving. My mother wasn’t really around to read me a story let alone anything close to this. Cherish your great moms.

  34. This is true, and not saying you are spoiled either, but my mother didn't kill me, even though she tried many times.

  35. For 11 years I volunteered proofing Braile text books for middle and high school. The higher math texts were a bitch.

  36. 99% of law is practiced without a jury. And with assistive technologies such as screen readers, she'll probably work just as fast, if not faster than her 'all-seeing' peers. You'd be amazed at how much faster information is taken in if none of the visual distraction is there.

  37. They are most definitely replaceable. You ever heard of step parents or foster parents? Get outta here with that pandering title

  38. Oh she can read, she just needs assistive technologies like braille or screen readers to help her with it. She'll be as great a lawyer as any of her 'all-seeing' peers.

  39. My law school workload was around 100 pages of reading per class, per week. A four-class semester would have around 400 pages of reading each week. The reading was generally highly-detailed and difficult to skim. The idea of reading this aloud for several years is incredible to me.

  40. Ok, now that she graduated I hope that her working life is more according to her disability because otherwise she will not be able to work in her field 😢

  41. Professor here. We are required to have course materials be accessible. We would get sued otherwise. Providing e-readers is standard practice in academia these days.

  42. This reminds me of a time I was on my phone in a lecture hall when I heard this super loud fucking clanking sound. It was so loud it was inhibiting my ability to ignore the lecture.

  43. Honest question here: Ill just ask the question no matter how it sounds. What is the point of going through all that if she cannot read herself, and most of her possible future war will (maybe already is) consist mostly of reading papers and writing things down. Will she have to employ additional person to work with her who will read it like her mom ?

  44. Shit give her a real degree so she can actually make some money now. Shame on the law school for not offering better support though. This woman shouldn’t have had to give up years of her life while paying for a school to educate her kid.

  45. the text is not completely correct. what mother did is she read aloud the books and texts at home to her daughter. The mother didn't attend the classes. But still an honorary graduate certificate has been given to her. the date of the original news is late 2018.

  46. I go to an university where I sometimes see the same blind girl walking by, going about her day and attending classes. That really does inspire me, as I am now going to enter the second year after a difficult first one. Really admire her for the work she is puting in

  47. This is a great story but mothers are very replaceable. My real mom is a mental and emotional abuser who is a complete narcissist and will gladly throw me in a pit of lava if it meant she gets 10 bucks, and then she'll spin the story around to others saying it was my fault in the first place for "falling in" and that she tried everything to "stop me". The only reason why she wouldnt do this, would be because she realized she could make more money keeping me alive and captive. My step mom though is an actual mom to me and is the one who showed me how a real mom should act in this world when i had no idea, because I was so used to the abuse that i just said to myself "this is normal and what all moms are like" and bit the bullet time and time again. So just know not all moms are saviors to their kids, some are the exact opposite.

  48. How old were you when you formed a relationship with your step mom? That’s so awesome that you ended up with her in your life after the cards you were dealt with your bio mother.

  49. Great effort, but will she be able to earn a living with her new profession? It is a profession that involves a lot of reading, including old documents, old cases, and stuff like that. A lot of young people these days get a degree not having an idea on how that degree will return the investment not only in money but also in time, and they finish an University and go to flip burghers.

  50. There are so many abusive and terrible mothers out there. If you have a good one, be thankful. Don’t try claiming that all mothers are irreplaceable because that’s simply not true.

  51. audio books should be more common especially nowadays given it can basically be automated by anyone with basic knowledge there and a little feedback from people

  52. So how exactly is she going to practice her job now? It's all nice and impressive, but did anyone stop and think about the future? After she graduates?

  53. Amazing dedication from the mom. I can’t help but wonder why there was no help provided for her from the university? Surely there’s programs that could have helped her study so her mom didn’t have to attend every class??

  54. This is awesome, but as someone with learning disabilities and has a BS degree I know that every university in the US will provide a reader, audio books, and a guide. This is federal law covered under the IDEA.

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