1. Just curious, do you have Japanese Yew in your neighborhood? It’s an extremely common, non-native ornamental. It’s extremely poisonous and known to kill horses and deer quickly. That’d kind of explain how the 2 died so close together if it was something like poisoning.

  2. It's possible, there are a couple old farm stead sites back in the wood just off my property. The house's are long gone but there are lilac and some type of yews growing around where it use to be.

  3. This comment should be higher and is most likely. Landscape poisoning is most common this time of year while forage is at its lowest until spring green up. Anyone who reads this please consider native plant species for your own landscaping, invasives and nonnative plants are horrible for most wildlife we as outdoorsmen and women are stewards for.

  4. Not sure what are you are located in, but if there is a college near you contact their biology department to see if they would want to examine them.

  5. One side of the garden was open so they could have easily walked out. The blood on the second deer under the front leg appears to be from thrashing a 1' pit in the soft ground to lay in. Stiff with rigor when i found them so they couldn't have been there too long.

  6. I was curious about the blood, but it didn’t seem anywhere near enough to indicate some type of lethal injury. I think your instinct regarding poisoning is most likely. Though you’d think in that case, there’d be some kind of vomit. Did you get a chance to roll the third deer over and get a better look at the wound?

  7. If the original poster reads this I am in contact with the Michigan DNR and they want to do a necropsy. Please message me back.

  8. Thanks that would be great. Feel free to DM me there info, or what department I should contact with the dnr. The call taker I talked to was not to interested.

  9. That's pretty surprising, where I used to live there were two biologists for a couple counties and one came out to visit when I asked for advice on wildlife management - get rid of those trees plant this stuff if you want turkeys, that sort of thing.

  10. The guy who owns the property next to our hunting spot told us his neighbors up the road shamelessness poach ever year. He reported them to the DNR and they did nothing.

  11. Call them back and say you think someone illegally hunted them, be unable to describe why and much else so they have to come check it out.

  12. Very strange. I'm guessing some kind of poisoning, can't imagine what though, hemlock maybe? Are you near water or have a wet back yard?

  13. I am guessing poisonings too, but i don't think hemlock is the problem. It's way to early in spring for poision hemlock, and they love eating hemlock trees, which don't bother them at all. I picked this spot for my garden as it's actually one of the driest spots. There are swamps and a creek if you go 1000' or so either east or south, so an odd place to go if you are looking for a drink.

  14. No, we had one roll in just after i found them, but it's been 30-40's and mostly dry or gentle rain the past few days.

  15. Check the mouth and gums while wearing rubber gloves. See if there are any signs of Epizootic hemorrhagic disease (EHD) or blue tongue virus. Is there any swelling in the tongue, or ulcers in along the gums? If so, call your DNR back and tell them what you see; it'll get their attention quickly. Doesn't look like it from the pictures but these appear to be pretty young deer, and both viruses can kill relatively quickly.

  16. It looks like i may be able to get someone from the University out to take a look, so i am not going to handle them until then. We do not use any poisons. There is a very healthy hawk and yote population in the area so rodents are not a huge problem, at least they are kept to tolerable levels.

  17. It’s a long shot, but they’re all right up against the fence. Is the fence sturdy enough to have broken their necks if they were running and didn’t see it. Seems unlikely that all 3 would break their necks this way but I don’t think anything about this is “likely”.

  18. I'm in Michigan, this is just a mile or so from lake Michigan actually. I called the DNR hotline and once desided it didn't look like CWD they told me to call my garbage company to arrange pickup or to dig a deep hole.

  19. I was wondering as well about the fence...if perhaps they were spooked, couldn't find the exit, kept ramming into the fence, etc.

  20. I was going to mention this as well. We used to raise whitetails and man are they stupid when it comes to fences. Used to joke that a deer doesn’t grunt or snort, it just goes “boing”

  21. Didn't notice a ton of extra dropping or odd droppings. They do come in to there frequently to eat the cover crops we plant though so there is usually droppings of deer and rabbit all over in there. The hair does appear to be shedding a bit (which is normal for this time of year, but they are not patchy or balding.

  22. If your DNR won't respond, call the closest college. I'm willing to bet they'd love to have these for a case study, or know someone that would.

  23. Maybe ate a ton of corn somewhere and all suffered from acidosis? Or maybe like an enterotoxemia? Seen the same thrashing in goats suffering from it, and they can die fast from it. Poisonous plant material like top comment could be it too.

  24. My first thought would be starvation and then they ate chemicals or noxious plants in your garden. Had they jumped a fence to get in?

  25. They don't look emaciated at all, so i am leaning towards poising of some sort. It's still early spring so not much growing in the garden besides some small shoots of the clover and winter wheat we cover cropped with last fall. We don't have a structure there and don't store anything there, but certainly possible a neighbor has something out they could have gotten into.

  26. Call public health immediately. You mentioned in an earlier comment that these deer are bleeding from their nose and appear to have died suddenly. This is very typical of anthrax which is present in North American deer. Do NOT open up the carcass as this releases infective spores.

  27. Did they try running through the fence and possibly break they’re own neck? I know this seems kind of like a weird or dumb question but legit saw it happen in my back yard, I had a big doe run head long into a high chain link fence and snapped her own neck

  28. Did you happen to spill any antifreeze on your driveway or property? It smells very appealing to animals and is very toxic at small amounts.

  29. heard something about a prion illness that seems messed up, prions just cant be destroyed by anything other the shit like the suns heat, probably not that but i would hate to touch them out of paranoia since i know about it

  30. It would be interesting to gut them and see what's in their stomachs. Edited to add: I wonder if someone poisoned them intentionally due to them eating someone's landscaping.

  31. I’d bet it was from agricultural chemicals. I see that sometimes in the early part of the year. Is anyone planting a field nearby?

  32. Do any of your neighbors put out small animal poison for groundhogs, moles, or raccoons? That would be my most likely guess. They look fairly healthy and if they’re grouped together like that they probably all died around the same time. All ate poison at a common location, started looking for water, passed out and died. Odd DNR didn’t care to look into it though.

  33. If you're brave enough and plug your nose you could cut open the stomach. Maybe shove a few coffee grounds up your nose and wear a mask first.

  34. If you’re anywhere near a major university their ag department may want to investigate it. If you’re near Tennessee call up TWRA or University of Tennessee Ag

  35. I don’t know if this would apply but I have seen several deer blindly run into that exact type of fence, even when there’s an obvious opening, and break their neck. They thrash around and have a little blood in the mouth but otherwise appear fine. With rigor mortis it would be hard to tell if the neck was broken.

  36. I only marked it that way as the sub rules state to nsfw tag your hunting gore. It not exactly hunting gore, but similar. I now see that this is not consistently done here, but I am not a frequent poster, so was just trying to follow the sub rules as I understood them.

  37. Ya, i flipped all 3 looking for wounds and that one is just a small scratch where the leg meeting the body. Not deep, and not enough blood lost to have killed it by any means.

  38. They died from stress. Look at the fence. They ran into it over and over trying to escape. Deer die rather easily from stress in captivity.

  39. They are actually pretty clean and no blood or hair on the fence. Its bowing out slightly is more due to my poor fencing ability than anything they did.

  40. Did this happen in the last few days? Anyways CWD is for sure a possibility. Cwd is often in the body for years before anything happens ... also this same thing happened in Tennessee to a friend of a friend and the local college took them to study or something and told the home owner it was cwd that was last year ... if you have a microscope and can remove the brains you can look for cwd and find out for sure. I would ask local colleges to take them also maybe vet schools?

  41. From my understanding, which could total be wrong, while deer can carry CDW for years and appear healthy, they only die from it by wasting away. I don't think they just drop dead while appear otherwise ok.

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