I am very glad that s4 mentioned how Taiga adapted this tournament. Yeah, Ceb is crushing it, but Taiga deserves the same amount of praise because he basically switched from pos 4 to pos 5. It's very hard to do that I feel like. Not necessarily skill wise, but mental wise.
Imagine comparing someone who is ranked 79 on the EU leaderboard, who btw plays more pubs than any other pro, to someone who barely plays dota at all. Someone who refuses to acknowledge that the same 4 players is not the solution in a modern dota 2 world. It's lazy ancient dinosaur stubbornness at the expense of some very skillful players like GH and Miracle-. The fact that MC, GH and Miracle have not left this 5 years sinking ship has to raise some serious questions.
I remember the days when Ceb first transitioned from coach to player, everyone was sceptical about his mechanical skill being par with Tier 1 players. But this tournament has shown some of the most impressive mechanical play from him. Hope Kuro learns to play like Ceb just like he told MC lmao
I honestly think no matter how hard kuro tried, he could never learn the mechanical skills that Ceb has. feel like kuro just runs around on the map with like 250movement speed lol
waiting for Ammar and Misha's betrayal, Yuragi moves to 5, Chu moves to active 3 (or Ceb) and Topson returning to play Earth Spirit, Hoodwink and Oracle pos 1
OG!!! I love this new squad. Showing up at lan! Can’t help but wonder if they would have done this well if misha was there :/ Ceb is playing out of his mind.
Skiter keeps showing up for early fights with heroes+build combinations that don't fight early at all. Both games, first Jugg building Battlefury then, even more useless early, Troll with just a Perserverance. And he keeps dying, setting his farm back so much. Like, Yuragi also shows up early, but that's when he has stuff like Maelstrom, not while he is building Battlefury.
OG 2nd game draft was such a bait. I was sure they had no intention to pick Windranger for that game so they first picked CK just so Monkey King can go through 2nd phase ban.
They needed to adjust to Ceb and the other way around. Now I'm starting to think this major would've looked like EU DPC if Misha was there. Notail called their cores best in the world and while it's arguable, it's pretty fucking close. LGD comes to that conversation and I don't know who else really.
I know OG played like crazy, but I think a lot of credit goes to Misha and Chu for the Tundra and GG games. These major games were literally copy-paste from DPC when OG also read them both like a book.
Anmar is just balling. Him and Ceb have been playing out of their minds the last couple of series. An offlaner is outperforming even his own mid and carry. (both are playing very well btw)
What an ass whooping lol. OG is clearly a tier above Tundra in this series. They're like an upgraded version of Tundra, still playing around their offlane but all the positions are better
I mean, I'm used to never doubt OG and to expect the win no matter what. But that was with the old roster. This new crop is earning that trust back and it's so exciting to see them do this while they're so fresh cause I keep thinking what could potentially come when they properly root themselves in the pro scene. Absolutely magical showing in this lower bracket. We have another final to win boys, let's go!
Karma or not but tundra looked pretty down last 2 series, even dropped one tier below suddenly after tsm game 1. As someone said, no tier 1 team would pick skiter up right now if they ever release him. He's pretty much unstable and can't perform well everytime on non meta heroes, feels like he has no signature heroes but only bitches which don't die easily like dusa or wk. Also for example, timado looks quite impressive on some meta heroes like ck over skiter's. I dunno if he has any unique ability but shutting down a dominated game by hitting the rax rofl.
33 is a great player but his hero puddle really let Tundra down these last 2 series. Basically forces him onto the Doom or a non playmaker like Necro which shuts him down. He needs a more standard offlaner to not be banned out as easily
Damn, Tundra looked really scary all tournament too. Really didn't guess they're gonna be sent to lower bracket by TSM of all team. Then this "in the zone" OG stomped them out of the tournament. And OG maybe ended up winning the whole thing. Guess all the SEA teams knocked out by OG got an excuse that they were knocked out by the Major winner 😂
Ceb and notail really have figured out the recipe to competitive Dota 2. This new rendition of OG feel so similar to the TI winning line up in how they play, it’s really cool to see them imparting their knowledge onto the next generation of players.
That Shackleshot-Galeforce combo is so broken, especially when it is from a player that almost never misses his shackles like Ceb. Reminded me of Collapse's smooth Horn Toss into Skewer combo.
Arturito Ammar or also known as ATF (Ammar The Filipino) is a Filipino Professional DOTA 2 Player who is currently playing for the 2x TI winner OG. He played DOTA 2 at a very young age, many people knew that he is a child prodigy in a human body. Despite of his hardships and challenges, Arturito Ammar The Filipino continued to strive and be one of the best offlaners in the history of DOTA 2. He is only 16 years old with 30 years of experience in DOTA 2.
GG OG good luck in final. Feels like the insane microing ability heroes that kept used by 33 become some sort of boomerang for him once all those heroes are banned? Because of his "limitation" to not play any other normal offlaner heroes. I mean his visage getting beat down heavily in game 1 tho, but still it kinda limiting Tundra's playstyle in a way. But what do I know, just a shitty 2k mmr opinion
I feel bad for Misha. Despite being the captain his team is performing better than ever without him there - this is inevitably going to lead to comparisons of the team with Ceb over him. God forbid the team has some less impressive results after the major, you know everyone will immediately blame Misha being worse than Ceb.
I don't think so, the team knows he's the captain. They even said in that last interview he's the still doing a lot of the draft research and still very involved even tho he's not there in person.
There's no way TSM can hold these guys back. They are riding a far superior momentum with all those 2-0s in lower bracket except their match against Fnatic
Not sure about misha (don’t super follow og), but if you need a sub because of Covid or visa issues you don’t get a deduction. Saber had Covid so tsm is fine
I think if you just accept that you're entering the draft against OG from the perspective that you have one less first or second phase ban, you can really exploit that while Ceb plays godlike on two heroes, everything else he plays is a step below what you'd expect from a tier 1 level position five.
His Pugna was actually really good. I get your point but his Pugna still tier 1 (just), and if you take mk wr you give Ammar Timber which just isn't worth it in my books
Fata sends his regards.
Did he say anything after getting kicked?
OG exploiting Tundra's reliance on this Doom
live by the Doom, die by the Doom
Feelsbadman playing pango against BS, Nine just got raped lol
That stand in for OG is really good. He should join OG and maybe win one or two TIs.
He seems to have a bright future. Might even win TI one day
What if Ceb’s failing eyes had limited his game all previous years and now that he fixed it, he is finally reaching his final form?
Lmao I chose to believe this now
He has unlocked rinnegan by now
I am very glad that s4 mentioned how Taiga adapted this tournament. Yeah, Ceb is crushing it, but Taiga deserves the same amount of praise because he basically switched from pos 4 to pos 5. It's very hard to do that I feel like. Not necessarily skill wise, but mental wise.
I feel it's less taiga adapting to POS 5 more that og are essentially playing with 2 pos 1 and ceb is just playing as pos 3
33 with his specialty, bkb tp
Taiga is like thank god i got out of Lolquid.
I was so worried he will perform poorly on lan, glad I was wrong
Ceb with godly plays, kuroky learn from this man
Just play like 7ckngmad kuro
Imagine comparing someone who is ranked 79 on the EU leaderboard, who btw plays more pubs than any other pro, to someone who barely plays dota at all. Someone who refuses to acknowledge that the same 4 players is not the solution in a modern dota 2 world. It's lazy ancient dinosaur stubbornness at the expense of some very skillful players like GH and Miracle-. The fact that MC, GH and Miracle have not left this 5 years sinking ship has to raise some serious questions.
Its amazing how ceb who only started playing pos5 recently is already lightyears ahead of kuroky who has played it infinite times longer.
Ceb is so good man holy fuck
If OG win this Major, he is GOATed
Stop giving the man WR for fucks sake lol
I remember the days when Ceb first transitioned from coach to player, everyone was sceptical about his mechanical skill being par with Tier 1 players. But this tournament has shown some of the most impressive mechanical play from him. Hope Kuro learns to play like Ceb just like he told MC lmao
Ceb was ranked 1 EU playing Mid. You don't get to the top of the leaderboards playing mid without being a beast mechanically.
I honestly think no matter how hard kuro tried, he could never learn the mechanical skills that Ceb has. feel like kuro just runs around on the map with like 250movement speed lol
This is basically Frankfurt Major 2.0, lower bracket run in the very first major for a new OG squad, we've come full circle.
waiting for Ammar and Misha's betrayal, Yuragi moves to 5, Chu moves to active 3 (or Ceb) and Topson returning to play Earth Spirit, Hoodwink and Oracle pos 1
If only EG was at Final right now, (like Secret at Frankfurt) it would be perfect parallel
OG to win TI in 2024 and 2025 you heard it here first
Cross my fingers for OG 🌻🌻🌻
lmao troll bb to chase after that ferrari BS was pretty hilarious
OG!!! I love this new squad. Showing up at lan! Can’t help but wonder if they would have done this well if misha was there :/ Ceb is playing out of his mind.
Yes, no doubt. Misha would make them even better. OG's last TI run can be largely credited to him, thus coming from Notail/Ceb.
What the fuck OG. This is insane.
Tundra with a really poor showing in front of the crowd these last few days, disappointing.
Poor showing to make it third…convincingly to UB Final…
Tundra choked in second game with those horrible casting of spells
They're all thinking about the next kick ;)
Skiter keeps showing up for early fights with heroes+build combinations that don't fight early at all. Both games, first Jugg building Battlefury then, even more useless early, Troll with just a Perserverance. And he keeps dying, setting his farm back so much. Like, Yuragi also shows up early, but that's when he has stuff like Maelstrom, not while he is building Battlefury.
check first two fights in game 2 when nine completely missed all spells
oh FNATIC what have you done
"Washed up old man" schooling these kids ;)
The mischief axes dodge into tree jump, old man my ass.
Ceb playing a better 5 than Kuro and Jerax
Ceb never quit the grind tho, dude is constant top rank and playing pubs all day
u mean puppey right?
Ceb coming back from retirement as a stand-in and slamming on these top teams like Michael Jordan's 1995 return
OG 2nd game draft was such a bait. I was sure they had no intention to pick Windranger for that game so they first picked CK just so Monkey King can go through 2nd phase ban.
How did the BS make it so far into the draft?
Why are they broadcasting Frankfurt Major highlights?
I'm amazed at how much OG has improved during this tournament, they're looking insane
Fnatic unlocked their final form
Any stand-in just needs time to adapt to the team. Ceb did that and now they look unstoppable.
Ceb has finally become a pos 5 and a pos 3
Tbh they look like how they were back in DPC regionals.
They needed to adjust to Ceb and the other way around. Now I'm starting to think this major would've looked like EU DPC if Misha was there. Notail called their cores best in the world and while it's arguable, it's pretty fucking close. LGD comes to that conversation and I don't know who else really.
Tundra and GG against OG? Basically WEU DPC all over again lmao
I lost my mind when 33 tried to escape with tp instead of using Doom on someone in win or go home fight.
if og wins this major. i would consider Ceb as the GOAT
The real two time. No doubt if he wins this he goes down in dota2 lore forever
Nah Notail still. He won 4 majors. This major still feels a bit empty without China.
it's not fair - taiga has mom buff
Svg “ cebs inspiring me to take another round”
who needs shackleshot is you have imbalanced strike!
Ceb casually subbing in and now on their way to the finals
OG creating another dynasty
Tundra are mad chokers while OG are seasoned winners.
OG has proved to be the best EU team, first in dpc and then in this major
lol get fucked Tundra
RIP Ceb,Notail,Jerax panel dream.
with jabz as their 3? not far
FATA was right
What was he right about?
JUSTICE FOR FATA
i mean, they got 3rd place, not like they had a bad showing
tundra have looked a lot better since fata left
Skitter was left
Fata was the worst player of tundra lol and had worst results with him what was he right about
TSm, plz dont get quick 3:0
Finally OG can beat Tundra in a tournament.
Tundra has been figured out. You just need to ban 33 zoo heroes and Tundra suddenly look a lot weaker
I know OG played like crazy, but I think a lot of credit goes to Misha and Chu for the Tundra and GG games. These major games were literally copy-paste from DPC when OG also read them both like a book.
RIP Misha
Ceb setting a higher standard for him.
OG white hot in the lower bracket, only 1 loss this is insane
That Fnatic game really changed their mentality, holy shit what a team
Must...
AMMAR THE FUCKER!
AMMAR THE FRIENDLY 🌻
Looks like that Fnatic series was trial by fire for this OG squad. They’re much stronger for having gone through that.
Preparation, experience and hunger. The tri-fecta.
Skitter! Ur team need u! Lmao
Huffing some INSANE copium here but after looking at all these matches I wonder how far fnatic would've gotten if they didn't choke at game 3
Anmar is just balling. Him and Ceb have been playing out of their minds the last couple of series. An offlaner is outperforming even his own mid and carry. (both are playing very well btw)
This has to be the best week as an OG fan holy fucking shit CEB WHAT A FUCKING GOD
OG is backkkk 🌻🌻🌻
There's a reason why Skiter failed in SA
Ceb jesus christ
What an ass whooping lol. OG is clearly a tier above Tundra in this series. They're like an upgraded version of Tundra, still playing around their offlane but all the positions are better
They need better placement on tour 3 or they might not qualify thru points
If Ceb ended up winning this major as a standin pos 5 he's never gonna divorce himself from pro Dota and commit infidelity with pos 4 in 2025
CEB IS DISGUSTINGLY GOOD OMG
Must be so amazing to be on team with N0tail and Ceb, man, they seem like such great teammates.
skiter, such an underwhelming carry player. if he gets dropped from this team, no tier 1 team would ever pick him up.
100% chance he's the next kick lol, 1 position is the easiest position to replace
I mean, I'm used to never doubt OG and to expect the win no matter what. But that was with the old roster. This new crop is earning that trust back and it's so exciting to see them do this while they're so fresh cause I keep thinking what could potentially come when they properly root themselves in the pro scene. Absolutely magical showing in this lower bracket. We have another final to win boys, let's go!
OG culture
Too many heroes to ban, Tundra can’t counter OG draft.
Finals start in 1 hour 45 mins. I bet ESL didn't plan for such a long break between the games.
Time to bring out slacks
Karma or not but tundra looked pretty down last 2 series, even dropped one tier below suddenly after tsm game 1. As someone said, no tier 1 team would pick skiter up right now if they ever release him. He's pretty much unstable and can't perform well everytime on non meta heroes, feels like he has no signature heroes but only bitches which don't die easily like dusa or wk. Also for example, timado looks quite impressive on some meta heroes like ck over skiter's. I dunno if he has any unique ability but shutting down a dominated game by hitting the rax rofl.
OG = 4-0 in major finals
OG 4-1 and NA 1-5 next ?
Misha kicked, Ceb new pos 5
Both Ceb and Notail said their life goal now is to get Misha an aegis so it's not likely but Cebs certainly making a good case!
33 is a great player but his hero puddle really let Tundra down these last 2 series. Basically forces him onto the Doom or a non playmaker like Necro which shuts him down. He needs a more standard offlaner to not be banned out as easily
I mean they literally banned all his heroes haha
Whenever skiter is needed to carry when nine or 33 have a bad game he can't step up, easily the worst player on the team
I think troll did what he could in that game but it was no good troll game and troll is bad in general
Everyone is saying 33 hero puddle when Skiter is just a puddle player
Never seen 33 playing this bad
Watch game 5 ti10 WEU grand finals
Damn, Tundra looked really scary all tournament too. Really didn't guess they're gonna be sent to lower bracket by TSM of all team. Then this "in the zone" OG stomped them out of the tournament. And OG maybe ended up winning the whole thing. Guess all the SEA teams knocked out by OG got an excuse that they were knocked out by the Major winner 😂
Thats the SEA server special, blame everyone except themselves!
Ceb and notail really have figured out the recipe to competitive Dota 2. This new rendition of OG feel so similar to the TI winning line up in how they play, it’s really cool to see them imparting their knowledge onto the next generation of players.
OG is on fire.
Thank you OG for destroying Tundra 💚
love him or hate him, Ceb is really the GOAT of Dota.
Congrats to OG, epic display again!
Tundra has OG's numbers?
Troll looked like a bad last pick to me. Would WK be a better option? Especially knowing it's a Skiter special.
Ceb mvp Og outdrafted tundra
Ceb need to be nerfed.
That Shackleshot-Galeforce combo is so broken, especially when it is from a player that almost never misses his shackles like Ceb. Reminded me of Collapse's smooth Horn Toss into Skewer combo.
Throw one of them Kappa
33 is always extremely underwhelming on heroes without summons
Tundra are cursed after that disgusting fata kick. What a disgusting team
Arturito Ammar or also known as ATF (Ammar The Filipino) is a Filipino Professional DOTA 2 Player who is currently playing for the 2x TI winner OG. He played DOTA 2 at a very young age, many people knew that he is a child prodigy in a human body. Despite of his hardships and challenges, Arturito Ammar The Filipino continued to strive and be one of the best offlaners in the history of DOTA 2. He is only 16 years old with 30 years of experience in DOTA 2.
How good is ceb
It's actually crazy how good this kids are, but most importantly Ceb is just on another level of playing dota. The man is an absolute legend
GG OG good luck in final. Feels like the insane microing ability heroes that kept used by 33 become some sort of boomerang for him once all those heroes are banned? Because of his "limitation" to not play any other normal offlaner heroes. I mean his visage getting beat down heavily in game 1 tho, but still it kinda limiting Tundra's playstyle in a way. But what do I know, just a shitty 2k mmr opinion
I feel bad for Misha. Despite being the captain his team is performing better than ever without him there - this is inevitably going to lead to comparisons of the team with Ceb over him. God forbid the team has some less impressive results after the major, you know everyone will immediately blame Misha being worse than Ceb.
I don't think so, the team knows he's the captain. They even said in that last interview he's the still doing a lot of the draft research and still very involved even tho he's not there in person.
with Misha, they swiped 2-0 everyone but Secret in the DPC WEU qualifiers
Where were the haters that said we wont make it past 8th place?????????????????
Upper brackets for _____!
"Nothing personal kiddo".
There's no way TSM can hold these guys back. They are riding a far superior momentum with all those 2-0s in lower bracket except their match against Fnatic
I hear people say this every time TSM play against one of any of these EU team.
CEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEB would be amazing if he stayed pos5
feels good to see tundra lose ,
Upper brackets for bitches!
Damn, OG destroying teams left and right not even dropping a single game after fnatic. Freaking beasts
Can't believe we're back to the boring "games in front of crowds where everybody choke apart from OG" meta.
Best offlaners in the world - Faith Bian, Ammar, Saberlight, Collapse
Ammar isn’t even the clear best offlaner in his team
You should add "Right now"..
OG threw against TSM last time just so the youngsters got more main stage experience no kappa.
I'm still salty fnatic choke. They did better against OG
DANG
cant wait for tundra twitter guy, i heard midormeepo manage their twitter if im not wrong from gorgc stream
How many team's twitter does he handle? Secret, Tundra. Who else?
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Gunnar gaming optics
So will both Finalist get a 40% Pts deduction? I think if so, that's a bit harsh especially because of medical or Visa issues.
no they changed it with the russia situation.
From what i saw in og discord,there will be no deduction.
Not sure about misha (don’t super follow og), but if you need a sub because of Covid or visa issues you don’t get a deduction. Saber had Covid so tsm is fine
I think if you just accept that you're entering the draft against OG from the perspective that you have one less first or second phase ban, you can really exploit that while Ceb plays godlike on two heroes, everything else he plays is a step below what you'd expect from a tier 1 level position five.
His Pugna was actually really good. I get your point but his Pugna still tier 1 (just), and if you take mk wr you give Ammar Timber which just isn't worth it in my books
Damn with so many pros and talent there, why didnt they make a showmatch as a filler.
Because they didnt expect the lower bracket finals to be a stomp
TIL if you select Misha in fantasy, u get 0 points. lol thought he would count as ceb, cuz ceb would be EZ fantasy point farm.
Couldn't they have had varied contents in the boxes for each day? 🤣
Anyone knows what's the schedule for the grand finals? I have to know whether to sleep rn or wait for it
Sleep now, stand up for game 5 in 6 hours
Will grand final be bo3 or bo5?
Bo5
Jerax got kicked from eg.sad
source?
dang shit is real, feelsbadman
Sunsfan and Synd podcast with Jerax and gorp in the meantime
I hope TSM wins in Grand finals
Just goes to show this major is overrated. China teams would trounce these fools
You know how you ban magnus against Collapse, why don't teams ban WR against Ceb?
The difference between 1st and second is 70 dpc points. It’s like why even have a tournament wtf.
Where's the fucking crowd
Its almost full during the game not a lot gonna stay at the Arena waiting 1hour+ I guess
been wondering about that too, still have covid restrictions?
All they had to do was respect banning that MK but they are not smart!