It should be heated. I've placed an order for a custom 1200mm X 300mm keenovo heater but due to the Shanghai lockdown, they wouldn't be able to send it until the lockdown has been lifted. For now I'm using good old fashion blue tape which is working a lot better than expected.
One improvement idea is to turn the cable chain 90 degrees and let it rest on an added rail. Low enough so it can double up on itself when moving back to that end.
What about making the moving portal triangular? It’s as a rectangular prism right now, but might see benefits if you made a trianglular strut in the Y axis to both reduce weight and increase rigidity.
I chose a rectangle since I used blind joints in this build. Much quicker to build + square the frame with less complexity than designing angled couplers
As a previous Mendel builder, I wouldn't recommend it. Triangles are strong but calibrating triangles and getting everything "square" when it's not actually square can be challenging.
Thats so amazing! How many probe points for the BL Touch? I hope you at least sped the probing up. It makes a world of difference, and still have a great first layer
As a suggestion, don't mount the spool on the gantry frame, lower the height of the gantry frame, and replace the right angle rear part of the frame with an angled piece for support. All of that will reduce the moving mass and increase your potential print speeds.
Originally I had the spool mounted on a rack above and had a reverse bowden tube feeding it to the extruder. However, over 4ft of ptfe tube made it a massive hassle to manage so I got lazy and took the spool holder off an ender 3 mounted it on top of the gantry. Since the printer only moves as 50mm/s, it hasn't introduced ringing or other weight related artifacts.
I've worked with a lot of large scale plotters and CNC for cutting woven graphite, this is definitely a closer approach to what those are doing. The newer models added belt feeds, but with carbon fiber you just use vacuum to keep it on the bed instead of heat and material characteristics here, so still easier, but looking at the output data the belt feeds really aren't much faster. Really comes down to setup time in a lot of situations. Also, maintenance on belt feeds suck ass
We have large plotting/milling tables at my work that use vacuum to hold sheets of material down. They had belts for doing long rolls of material, but it's honestly more trouble than it's worth.
Cool design. A decent upgrade would be moving the y motors onto the gantry and using a single run of belt instead of a loop. It will get you less belt stretch and resonance. Take a look at how a machine like the shapeoko router does the belts. I bet you could get a fair bit more acceleration that way.
I'm printing on blue painters tape right now since my heated bed is stuck in Shanghai due to the lockdown. As much as I love the enraged carrot feeder, for my purposes I don't have a need for it.
I've built a number of the popular DIY printers (prusa bear, voron and BLV) and took design cues from them. This printer is based off a prusa bear (z and X gantry is just a scaled up version) with the y moving the gantry instead of a bed.
Can you post a how to video? I am really into rc airplanes and have been designing and 3D printing the professional ones such as eclipson but they are done in so many pieces that glue together. It is nice so if u break a piece just reprint it but to be able to print the whole wing or fuselage would’ve amazing. Would absolutely love to see how a print of a full wing. I bought a professional 3D printer in a full case with ventilation and the prints are amazing. I just think that a whole piece would be stronger.
Did you know how to build a printer before starting this? I'm trying to build a printer but am having a hard time starting. Any launch literature you recommend would be appreciated.
It was really unreliable since the belt frequently missed steps due to the tension needed to keep it level, but at the same time it wasn't rigid enough and warped most of my sword prints.
I've started working on designs for something like this with the goal of printing couches out of recycled plastic. Have you published the design anywhere?
I’m very confused. This is obviously not a belt printer as you’re moving the whole gantry. But then why is it so complicated? If you’re just printing swords anyway why wouldn’t you just make an MPCNC or a similar diy CNC?
It's just a Cartesian printer with the y moving the gantry instead of a bed. I used to own a CNC machine myself and hated the noise and mess it made. Also in Canada, plastic and wood stock is hella expensive compared to a $25 roll of PLA
This is definitely something different. How come you didn't try to make the bed z axis? In theory it should have made the gantry lighter and allow higher speed.
It's mainly to keep things as simple and cheap as possible. The gantry is essentially just a scaled up prusa bear since I had printed parts lying around and a fixed bed is much more stable than one going in the z direction. If I had the time and money I would do something like a voron 2.4 where the XY gantry moves in rhe z instead of the bed.
I saw a video online somewhere of a printer with a conveyer belt instead of a bed; It printed a sword, and was fairly compact. Wonder if they designed it...
Very cool! This is kinda like the moving portal printer that the printing proper guy designed. I seriously considered it for my cr10 s4 but I'm lazy and never got around to it. I admire your passion for the craft!
I used a SKR Pro for the board since has 6 stepper driver slots (I need 2 for the Y, 2 for the Z and 1 each for the X and extruder). Most of the parts are oretty off the shelf as if was based off a peusa bear platform.
Super cool! The only downside I see is having to use low acceleration on the y axis, else there may be a lot of vibration... Using 0.4mm nozzle will take very long to print. Bigger nozzles should be more helpful here.
Thats fucking awesome!!!!
Agreed
Thank you!
Hell yeah!
is it just me or do you guys find it funny how he is using a "high tech" machine to make an ancient weapon in the worst/weakest way possible
My man doesn't fling the bed, dude's flinging the whole printer instead.
When the printer is lighter and easier to fling than the bed itself lol
Really cool approach.
Lol yep
Wow!!!!! What kind of printing surface is down there? Is that heated bed, if yes, which kind of heaters did you use?
It should be heated. I've placed an order for a custom 1200mm X 300mm keenovo heater but due to the Shanghai lockdown, they wouldn't be able to send it until the lockdown has been lifted. For now I'm using good old fashion blue tape which is working a lot better than expected.
Very cool. Maybe post some build pics.
Should have taken some behind the scene pics.
One improvement idea is to turn the cable chain 90 degrees and let it rest on an added rail. Low enough so it can double up on itself when moving back to that end.
That is a good idea. I'm just lazy and cheap and didn't want to buy another long extrusion just for thr chain to rest on
This is how my cable chain is on my CNC router. It’s 750x750mm
What about making the moving portal triangular? It’s as a rectangular prism right now, but might see benefits if you made a trianglular strut in the Y axis to both reduce weight and increase rigidity.
I chose a rectangle since I used blind joints in this build. Much quicker to build + square the frame with less complexity than designing angled couplers
As a previous Mendel builder, I wouldn't recommend it. Triangles are strong but calibrating triangles and getting everything "square" when it's not actually square can be challenging.
Came for the printer, stayed for the gats
I see u fedboi
I see you way to much on this app lol
Thats so amazing! How many probe points for the BL Touch? I hope you at least sped the probing up. It makes a world of difference, and still have a great first layer
I use 36. Klipper caps out at 36 probe points.
I envy you. I can't even print things bigger than 20×20cm on my anycubic...
I see your 20cm/20cm/20cm and raise you my 18cm/18cm/18cm
I just upgraded to a Anycubic Chiron because it was on sale. And now it is 40x40x40… enough to print some helmets, enough for me.
Cries tears of printer resin
Haha I make tons of swords from Genshin and now you got me itching to make something similar
Do it! I plan on doing a ton of grnshin props on this.
Awesome!!! How long does it takes to print one sword?
That piece being printed takes about 19 hours. This is not a fast printer.
I was thinking about making a custom sized bed, where can I get the firmware to mess with? Where can I learn about it?
I used Klipper for this build, it's very easy to define the size for this.
As a suggestion, don't mount the spool on the gantry frame, lower the height of the gantry frame, and replace the right angle rear part of the frame with an angled piece for support. All of that will reduce the moving mass and increase your potential print speeds.
Originally I had the spool mounted on a rack above and had a reverse bowden tube feeding it to the extruder. However, over 4ft of ptfe tube made it a massive hassle to manage so I got lazy and took the spool holder off an ender 3 mounted it on top of the gantry. Since the printer only moves as 50mm/s, it hasn't introduced ringing or other weight related artifacts.
MacGyver has been real quiet since this dropped.
Make the worlds biggest single print banana
How do you level that?!
op mentions bl touch
I've worked with a lot of large scale plotters and CNC for cutting woven graphite, this is definitely a closer approach to what those are doing. The newer models added belt feeds, but with carbon fiber you just use vacuum to keep it on the bed instead of heat and material characteristics here, so still easier, but looking at the output data the belt feeds really aren't much faster. Really comes down to setup time in a lot of situations. Also, maintenance on belt feeds suck ass
We have large plotting/milling tables at my work that use vacuum to hold sheets of material down. They had belts for doing long rolls of material, but it's honestly more trouble than it's worth.
The bed clamps lmfao
Went with the easiest route for bed clamps lol
Even more awesome is it wouldn't take but a little more hardware and you could have a large laser cutter, too.
Part of me wants to do something like this, but I don't know enough of co2 lasers to pull this off.
Stop! You'll bring on the Swords comic universe!
Leveling that beast must be a total PIA. Still an awesome idea!
I've got a BLTouch on this, so it's all good
Oh shit, nobody tell
Owh. Owh no. I already have 2 printers in the making :s
Oh yeah I own both of the original kickstarter belt printers - iFactory and Crealtiy, and both are shit in their own way
Pretty much this. The belt printers are decent at making lots of small objects but for long ones they are very hit or miss
Cool design. A decent upgrade would be moving the y motors onto the gantry and using a single run of belt instead of a loop. It will get you less belt stretch and resonance. Take a look at how a machine like the shapeoko router does the belts. I bet you could get a fair bit more acceleration that way.
Noddle size? It'll take weeks to print this large in 0.4.
0.6mm noodle
Guns, swords, and 3d printing. What more do you need in life?
cheese and chocolate
Nice Mistsplitter
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Yep it's the head of the engulfing lightning
Hell yeah! Make me one!
What's the blue paper you are using there?
I'm printing on blue painters tape right now since my heated bed is stuck in Shanghai due to the lockdown. As much as I love the enraged carrot feeder, for my purposes I don't have a need for it.
Very impressive.
Dude you have an excellent hobby room
Box gantry to improve stability?
Yep
...your gantry has a gantry...I love it.
How does one just design a printer? Any tutorials or tips, videos etc… would help a ton! Trying to do so on my own!
I believe ive seen a ebook on it.
I've built a number of the popular DIY printers (prusa bear, voron and BLV) and took design cues from them. This printer is based off a prusa bear (z and X gantry is just a scaled up version) with the y moving the gantry instead of a bed.
This is awesome do you mind if I ask build time and cost?
This is really cool, I'm impressed you can keep up 50mm/s while slinging that much weight around.
The layer lines aren't bad since I use variable layer height.
Can you post a how to video? I am really into rc airplanes and have been designing and 3D printing the professional ones such as eclipson but they are done in so many pieces that glue together. It is nice so if u break a piece just reprint it but to be able to print the whole wing or fuselage would’ve amazing. Would absolutely love to see how a print of a full wing. I bought a professional 3D printer in a full case with ventilation and the prints are amazing. I just think that a whole piece would be stronger.
bom plz
Did you know how to build a printer before starting this? I'm trying to build a printer but am having a hard time starting. Any launch literature you recommend would be appreciated.
Idk how you cutting anything with plastic swords.
Having trouble telling from the video - what are you using as linear guides? Just v-slots?
bom plz
I use Exoslides. They're great as linear rail substitutes for long runs like this
That must be a bitch to level
its fixed with bltouch
You sir are a fucking genius
Man I could print my entire enclosure in one print on this thing. Very bad ass
BOM or source on how to build this?
Might I suggest some type of cable chain support? Speaking from experience, if you run it enough that way, it'll break.
Love this!
This is AWESOME!
Which belt printer did you use and why didnt you like it? I have been thinking of getting a Cr20
It was really unreliable since the belt frequently missed steps due to the tension needed to keep it level, but at the same time it wasn't rigid enough and warped most of my sword prints.
Omg. If I had the space, or anything that big to print.
I've started working on designs for something like this with the goal of printing couches out of recycled plastic. Have you published the design anywhere?
What a fucking gangster.
"Just" for swords?
I’m very confused. This is obviously not a belt printer as you’re moving the whole gantry. But then why is it so complicated? If you’re just printing swords anyway why wouldn’t you just make an MPCNC or a similar diy CNC?
It's just a Cartesian printer with the y moving the gantry instead of a bed. I used to own a CNC machine myself and hated the noise and mess it made. Also in Canada, plastic and wood stock is hella expensive compared to a $25 roll of PLA
How do you bed leveling?
Using a BLtouch
this is genius bro, you should make your own company and duplicate these or send idea to Ender so we can all be printing out rifles
This is definitely something different. How come you didn't try to make the bed z axis? In theory it should have made the gantry lighter and allow higher speed.
With a bed this long you'd have to support it in the middle so it doesn't just flop off the axis lol
It's mainly to keep things as simple and cheap as possible. The gantry is essentially just a scaled up prusa bear since I had printed parts lying around and a fixed bed is much more stable than one going in the z direction. If I had the time and money I would do something like a voron 2.4 where the XY gantry moves in rhe z instead of the bed.
Guessing it’s easier to keep it level if it’s static. Just a guess.
Like a freaking CHAMP
God damn!
Holy shit.. dope printer!
This is great! I model swords for fun all the time and share them around. Message me and I can send some your way!
Mostly Final Fantasy swords, I should say
I saw a video online somewhere of a printer with a conveyer belt instead of a bed; It printed a sword, and was fairly compact. Wonder if they designed it...
this is what he built after being sick of that creality design, the 45 deg head is a real limit
Now that's cool.
Ender 73 pro ultra max s17
This was a bad joke about Creality naming. It is pretty sweet, and I am jealous.
Goddamn!!!
That’s badass my friend
This is incredible
Where did you purchase the materials for the frame ? I'm looking at doing something like this for my laser engraver. Thanks
I used misumi for all the aluminum extrusions. They custom cut, drilled and tapped them for me
So fucking coooooooooooooooooooool!
Isn't that the mistsplitter reforged? And is it for cosplay or do you just like swords?
I love Genshin
Very creative!
What is your go-to for favorite filament?
I use econofil from filaments.ca. They are local brand
You uh, you been printing anything else there? Something a little more advanced than swords?
nextfuckinglevel
That’s awesome! Do U sell them ? People would probably pay a lot just to use your printer.
What kind of build strength do you get with that? Dont expect you could hit anything with it but can you even swing a sword made like that?
Now make a resin printer for swords! 🤣
Ok, now you've gone too far.
That's impressive
Imagine of you scaled this up. You could print huge prints with this design.
What hotend/nozzle size do you use? And how did you design and build this?
bom plz
Very cool! This is kinda like the moving portal printer that the printing proper guy designed. I seriously considered it for my cr10 s4 but I'm lazy and never got around to it. I admire your passion for the craft!
Do I see Exocube sliders on that Y-axis rail?
Yep, I used exo slide for the Y as it around $80CAD for a full set instead of paying over $300 for linear rails for the Y length
That is awesome!
Can you do a timelapse print?
That is freakin AWESOME!!!!!!! Wow man, congrats!!!
Holy crap!! 😱😱
Cool build. I aspire to this level of 3D printing! What motherboard did you use? Are all the parts off the shelf, or did you use a donor machine?
I used a SKR Pro for the board since has 6 stepper driver slots (I need 2 for the Y, 2 for the Z and 1 each for the X and extruder). Most of the parts are oretty off the shelf as if was based off a peusa bear platform.
What belt printer did you have?
before i read the post I was like, this guy must hate belt printers.
I want to build this ! got any more details ?like build log ? parts list ?
Dude you are a rock star! Does that travel in the Y with lead screws?
Wow..wow. wow........wow
Nice!
That is class! I want one.
Impressive.
Looks like you could print a whole clonetrooper armor on there, or a battledroid, in one go.
Bed-leveling must be fun :D
its fixed with bltouch
I wish I had the room to build something like this!
This is amazing, but i have to ask, why a carry around a box structure like that
rigidity i believe , but would be interesting to know if it would work without
Time for some lost casting
Do all belt printer suck? What are the issues?
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he says printed
I'd hazard a guess the resulting prints are a lot stronger, with a lot fewer layers and a lot more surface area on them.
WTF.. So awesome ....👍🏼
Neat! Any build details?
I assume you had the CR30? I thought they were a terrible idea from the beginning, but would love to hear why you didnt like it
Damn, you must really like sanding.
That sword looks like something the Skeksis would use for Trial by Stone.
So cool! That will save a lot of hassle putting pieces together!
Do you already regret not making it 1500mm? :p
With that amount of guns on the wall, I’m guessing you are an American? 😉 Cool setup for the swords! 🤘
I'm actually canadian lol. Those were props I've made for friends
Im speechless.... coolest thing ive seen in... probably months (and I see a lot!)
Like you do
Brings new meaning to using a slicer.
What did you not like about the belt printer? I was looking into one of those
45 deg print head, belt adhesion just guessing
Hahahah that's so awesome. Very cool
Is that mistsplitter reforged from genshin impact
Wow nice work! That is so impressive.
how thick/solid is the base/print bed?
No way bro
How would you be able to keep a bed that size perfectly level?
It is fixed, and uses bltouch for levelling
So like where's the how to video at hahaha. Just kidding. That's freaking amazing
I was thinking abt doing this ngl
Super cool! The only downside I see is having to use low acceleration on the y axis, else there may be a lot of vibration... Using 0.4mm nozzle will take very long to print. Bigger nozzles should be more helpful here.
Nothing but respect for your level of commitment.
My man skipped the belt printer and went straight to table printer.
That's a lot of blue tape. But looks way more useful than a belt.
A friend modified his delta to print up to 2.5 meters tall and that's how he prints his swords
Is that a flange from a 1” video deck on top?
Genuinely curious, why the skirt and the random dots on the sharp points?
The dots are there to prevent the sharp points from lifting off the painters tape
skookum
Mistsplitter reforged?