1. I agree. I’m a 40 year old Chloe and I’ve loved that it became popular way after my time.

  2. I tested the day before my beta so that 1) I was prepared but also 2) I knew that it was relatively accurate, and I didn’t have to agonize about accuracy. I recommend that route and would do the same thing again.

  3. I did basically the same, but tested the same day as my beta. I just couldn’t stand to be in the dark waiting for the phone to ring.

  4. Yes, knots! Ugh-crap. I was hoping this wasn’t the case, but glad I’m not alone on it and it can be “normal”. Thank you for your response.

  5. I have no idea if it’s normal, but it happened to me and took a long time to heal. I couldn’t sleep comfortably on my sides for a couple of years without a terrible ache happening. Never found anything about it anywhere online.

  6. oh sorry I guess I meant normal in someone other than me experienced this too as I couldn’t find anything online about it.

  7. Yeah, I never found anything either. I gave up worrying about it and it eventually healed. I don’t think it’s dangerous or anything, just a huge pain in the ass. Pun intended.

  8. As far as I understand it’s implantation chances, but I’m honestly not 100% sure.

  9. Some people get lucky and do one retrieval and the first transfer works. You probably won’t find as many of those people hanging out in this subreddit. It probably skews to people with more issues here. I started at 36 and it took us 4 retrievals and 4 transfers to finally have our daughter. It took us many years because of all the setbacks (like a pregnancy that led to miscarriage and then D&C etc.) We only wanted one child so we weren’t trying to bank embryos. So I think it also took us longer because we did retrieval -> transfer -> chemical miscarriage -> retrieval -> Lupron suppression -> retrieval that was canceled due to too much suppression -> retrieval -> transfer (failed) -> transfer -> pregnancy -> miscarriage -> D&C -> retrieval -> mock transfer cycle with biopsy testing -> hysteroscopy -> transfer that ended in a baby

  10. Yes, the hysteroscopy needs to happen the first half of your cycle when your lining is thin. Sometimes they’ll put you on BC to keep it thin until the procedure. I don’t know why you wouldn’t take antibiotics. It’s the kind of thing I think can’t hurt and it sounds like you need it. I took them before all of my transfers.

  11. I’ve done both and much preferred natural or modified natural, as long as you ovulate regularly. You take way fewer medications, don’t have to do PIO injections (which really messed up my hips when I did them) and I believe you also have a lower risk of preeclampsia. I felt better not taking all that estrogen and huge amounts of progesterone.

  12. Oh wow! Thank you for sharing that and congratulations on your success. Yeah, I think walking back to the car and going to the bathroom and getting my food wouldn’t hurt. I will just go back to bed right away. I’m also okay not to shower for 48hrs. Thank you again. 🩷

  13. No problem! I was extremely conservative about not moving much at all. I agree with other people that light movement or bed rest probably doesn’t make a huge difference either way. For me, I was paranoid of a big jolt or movement the first few days (when I imagined the embryo may be trying to do its thing). So I didn’t want to move much in case I might have fallen or tripped. Probably still wouldn’t have hurt things but I knew it would increase my anxiety. I had a lovely time chilling in my hotel room. I bought a case of water bottles, a bunch of snacks and frozen foods and brought embroidery and tv shows. Just used it as a little excuse to enjoy some shows and relax, AND sleep a ton. Took a shower, washed and dried hair right before heading to the transfer appointment so that I didn’t feel gross for a couple of days.

  14. Yeah now that I am thinking about it I will go nuts if I trip or fall so yeah I think I will just stay in bed and only get up when going to the bathroom and get my food. I think that’s plenty of movement and walking. I don’t want to disturb my embryo while doing his thing. Did you put any pillows under your leg to help with circulation? That’s a good idea to shower and wash my hair before transfer since I won’t be able to shower for 48hrs. Did not thought about getting bunch of snacks. I will add that on my list. Haha! Thanks for your advice. 🩷

  15. I didn’t do anything with pillows. But I drank lots of water so got up pretty frequently to pee. I didn’t try to stay totally bed bound. Walked normally to use the bathroom and get food as much as normal but otherwise laid in bed or on the couch. I think some people call it “couch rest”, not so strict as bed rest where you literally try not to move. But 90% of the time I was relaxing, mostly reclined, in bed. Used it as a nice excuse to enjoy some shows and snacks. :)

  16. We did ICSI and of all ours tested, we had 4 girls and 2 boys. The only euploids were 2 girls. Only one worked and we have one daughter.

  17. Congrats! I tried this method once (transferring two Day 3s) and didn’t get a positive beta.

  18. I had hip pain probably for about 2 years if I tried to sleep on my side. I got huge muscle knots. The good news is my body finally fixed itself but it took a long time.

  19. Took me until my 4th to get one, high quality, euploid embryo. It was either changing clinics/labs that helped or just finally got a little bit luckier.

  20. I’m so sorry. It was discovered I had scar tissue after my MMC and D&C too. I had a hysteroscopy to remove it and 2 months later had my FET that led to my daughter being here. So it was definitely worth it to do things as best as possible. Hang in there. 🩷

  21. They did a saline sonogram to check my uterus before the transfer.

  22. I’m so sorry. For me, after the trauma of loss, the worries never ended. It’s really really hard and so unfair. Therapy helped me some, but I also just watched a lot of TikTok and ate a lot of food and distracted myself as much as I could because the scary thoughts never stopped coming no matter what milestone I hit while pregnant.

  23. Download TikTok and you’ll be genuinely frightened that somehow 8 hours passed by in what felt like 5 minutes. 😅

  24. I think the answer depends on if you’re running out of patience/money etc. It sounds to me like you haven’t had a really good embryo yet, but both transfers ended in implantation. I obviously could be wrong, but to me this seems more like your uterus and lining and implantation will be totally fine once you get a good embryo. This was sort of the case for me. Since you’re open to donor, I think I’d probably look at highly graded donor embryos that area already ready to go. But I don’t have a lot of expertise in this area. If you’re up for it, another retrieval for yourself to see if you get luckier with maybe a slightly different protocol or clinic/lab. If you don’t want to do another retrieval though, I’d think donor embryos would be a great choice. If you’re doing both egg and sperm donor, it seems harder to put them together yourself and hope for better embryos than to use existing embryos.

  25. This is good input, thank you. Sometimes we look for answers and look around the obvious answer, which is exactly what you’re saying here - a really strong embryo. I think that’s the reality but also don’t want to risk leaving a stone unturned. My doctor is counseling the same - we need a good embryo. Double donor and donor embryo are both interesting. Double donor can have even higher odds, but to your point, if you get great donated embryos, those can too. I think that’ll be a big q for my doc. Thanks for the input!!

  26. I’m glad if it sparked some ideas and thoughts for you. I commented because it kind of reminded me of myself. My first transfer was a Day 7 poor quality embryo and it resulted in a chemical. I thought it was a good sign that it implanted. My third transfer was another fair/poor quality embryo which ended in a miscarriage. My last/4th transfer was the first time I had a high quality embryo and it resulted in the birth of my daughter. Everyone doing this has different issues, but I always felt my main one was never getting a good embryo. Some people have really high quality ones that don’t even turn into a positive test, so I feel like maybe you’re similar to me.

  27. Bleeding is super common is early pregnancies so it’s impossible to know until you have your scan. I had bleeding in my pregnancy and went to the ER and the doctor told me about 50% of pregnancies have some amount of bleeding. I don’t know if that’s true, but I think their point was that it’s extremely common. I believe that it’s even more common for IVF pregnancies as well.

  28. yes but the sudden gush of blood really scared me and then nothing after 2 hours.

  29. The gush of blood happened to me too both times I was pregnant. One ended in a miscarriage later (not related to the bleeding) and the other resulted in my daughter. It’s impossible for any of us to know if it’s okay or not, but it doesn’t necessarily mean anything is wrong.

  30. I’m so sorry. My IVF journey started similarly. It’s so hard and so defeating. My first retrieval was one embryo that was low quality and resulted in a chemical. I thought the second time would go better once we changed things up but it resulted in two embryos that were both abnormal. After that I needed some time before I was ready to do more. It was finally our 4th retrieval that got us our one good embryo that tested normal and worked. I say all this so that you don’t feel like it’s just you. And also that you don’t feel like there’s no hope if the first two didn’t go well. For some of us, this whole thing takes a lot more time and heartache than we originally thought. I hope your one embryo you already have works out!

  31. Thank you so much for sharing your story. I had a realization when we learned that our second cycle was essentially a bust that this is a game of endurance. As long as we have the drive and the money to keep going (after seeing the cash pay bill I’m not sure for how long) this cycle doesn’t have to define us. And I kept that attitude all the way through to yesterday when the cracks got just a little too wide to plaster over. I feel a little better today. I appreciate you taking the time to help a stranger ❤️

  32. That’s totally how I felt about it too. It’s a game of endurance. I needed a lot of mental and physical breaks so IVF took us 4 years. If you need it, take a month or two or three. That’s ok too. ❤️

  33. I had my success after stopping it. It got too expensive and didn’t help other than it was relaxing while doing a session. My doctor said it didn’t matter either way.

  34. Don’t Give Up by Peter Gabriel kept me going and made me cry a lot.

  35. It’s not common because eggs do not freeze and thaw as well as embryos. Eggs are a single cell, while Day 5 embryos are hundreds of cells and hold up much better to freezing and thawing. But you should ask your doctor their opinion about it.

  36. Personally, I feel like you’re right. We all have different parts of getting pregnant that don’t work for us and maybe implantation isn’t your trickiest part. I can tell you my experience. We were unexplained until we did multiple retrievals and we finally realized all my eggs were horrible quality. Our first transfer was a Day 7 that was fair to poor quality but it still resulted in a chemical pregnancy. I felt like it was a good sign that maybe implantation wasn’t my worst area of this whole ordeal. The second transfer we did two Day 3 embryos and nothing happened. But the third transfer we did another poor quality embryo and I got pregnant but had a miscarriage at 9 weeks. Again, I felt like it wasn’t implantation that was my issue. Our 4th transfer was the first time we had a good quality embryo and I got pregnant and had a baby. So, and I think this is what you were asking, for some of us we never got pregnant for years and years because we never were able to get eggs, or make embryos, or make quality embryos. For me, I never felt that my uterus or uterine lining was the issue. I had a hunch if we could ever get a good embryo that might be all we needed. Maybe you’re the same.

  37. I had bleeding around the same time in my pregnancy and it was fine. They actually never figured out the cause. I went to the ER because I was panicked. The doctor there said about 50% of pregnancies have some bleeding. They should give you an ultrasound for reassurance.

  38. I’m so sorry. What did your doctor say?

  39. He said we should hope for a miracle and that I should come in 2 weeks for another ultrasound. I've been so anxious and sad, but I dont want to loose hope yet.

  40. I’m sorry. That’s a horribly difficult wait. Hugs!

  41. Only you can make that decision. Do you think you could be happy with a life with your son?

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