They kicked and screamed about their budget. They shake the city down by handing out fliers with the thinly veiled threat that their already horrible 22-minute response time will get worse if they dont get their money. Then, once they get that money, they continue to demonstrate why they are the worst they can be despite a budget increase.
Plain clothes officers are needed. If you remove the ability for cops to be undercover then you increase the danger to the public especially in downtown. One bad interaction shouldn’t end the idea of undercover police officers.
The cops were too busy "investigating" him to stop him from getting back behind the wheel after shotgunning a 26er of vodka and dumping the empty bottle in a trash can of a park, which they had time to retrieve, but again, not time to stop him.
If there was only a SINGLE uniformed cop there, all of this could have been avoided and that plainclothes cop's life would have been saved. The wife of the dead man should be outraged at their procedures, and not at this innocent man.
We know from forensic evidence that the cop wasn't rammed with the front of the car with his arms/hands flailing saying no no no (or whatever comical stereotype the cops were lying on the stand with)
Yes. The fraud officers are known to drink and drive repeatedly, assault unjustly, be openly racist, rape victims in full uniform, lie in court, watch porn on duty, etc.
Cops have shown that since the relatively short implementation of body cameras they are willing to manipulate the footage or just not turn it on completely. Without real accountability, seems kind of pointless
Drivers are four times more likely to be in a collision while using a phone, according to the York Regional Police webpage on the risks and fines associated with distracted driving.
One thing I’ve never seen in any of the coverage of this trial is, did the police ever have a credible reason to stop this guy in the garage at Nathan Phillips Square or were they just in the area and decided to confront a random in a BMW with his wife and baby in the car?
More likely it's the case that it was was a smart but cynical and immoral play for the Crown. They probably did the math and decided that ruining this guys life with a losing case was less trouble for them than declining to prosecute and suddenly having Totonto cops tanking all their other cases in revenge.
They kicked and screamed about their budget. They shake the city down by handing out fliers with the thinly veiled threat that their already horrible 22-minute response time will get worse if they dont get their money. Then, once they get that money, they continue to demonstrate why they are the worst they can be despite a budget increase.
Cops should have to pay back salary from the day of the incident if fired for cause.
With interest
It's funny. Cops, Tory and Ford have no problem staying silent when cops are the ones on trial but when it's a POC...
Plain clothes officers are needed. If you remove the ability for cops to be undercover then you increase the danger to the public especially in downtown. One bad interaction shouldn’t end the idea of undercover police officers.
Plains clothes cops is not the same as undercover cops
Not just plain clothes but looking like actual crackheads. Forbes looks like one even in uniform.
She should have never been on the stand ... because she should have been FIRED from being a cop when she was caught stealing from a charity.
$120k now!
I heard on the news the one lady actually got promoted to Sargent.
The one who stole money from a charity.
And then he was forced to get behind the wheel. Luckily our brave boys in blue let him drive drunk in a safe manner.
The cops were too busy "investigating" him to stop him from getting back behind the wheel after shotgunning a 26er of vodka and dumping the empty bottle in a trash can of a park, which they had time to retrieve, but again, not time to stop him.
I believe Saunders was involved in that investigation. No wonder it didn't go anywhere.
With respect to the aftermath of the Umar Zameer verdict:
If the bath house raids didn't disqualify him already ...
I hope the police are more careful in their operations now that this has finished.
If there was only a SINGLE uniformed cop there, all of this could have been avoided and that plainclothes cop's life would have been saved. The wife of the dead man should be outraged at their procedures, and not at this innocent man.
The widow will look to blame everyone but her own husband and his drinking buddies
Unpopular opinion: I don’t feel terribly sad for the cop. His own approach and actions are what led to this outcome. Zameer is the victim here.
We know from forensic evidence that the cop wasn't rammed with the front of the car with his arms/hands flailing saying no no no (or whatever comical stereotype the cops were lying on the stand with)
Needless to say but this is unacceptable.
And yet it keeps on happening frequently
Sounds like the TPS is best job in Canada.
Definitely great for a certain type of individual
How fucking tone deaf do you have to be ... oh wait...
Yes. The fraud officers are known to drink and drive repeatedly, assault unjustly, be openly racist, rape victims in full uniform, lie in court, watch porn on duty, etc.
Says it like he's proud of it or something.
"... and we STILL got more money the year after!"
"This is not just a law enforcement problem," he told a board meeting on Monday.
And they got a
I want to know what’s going to happen with all the cops that outright lied, and then assaulted him.
High fives and pats on the back
They “claim” they were wearing badges around their necks at the time.
It is correct to put claim in quotes as the testifying cops have crooked/criminal pasts
A ~$1.2 billion pubic organization show how much of a vindictive gang they can be.
body cameras on whomst??? i haven’t seen a police officer on the ttc in about 4 months and i take it twice daily
We'll they're not being paid overtime anymore so why protect and serve?
Cops have shown that since the relatively short implementation of body cameras they are willing to manipulate the footage or just not turn it on completely. Without real accountability, seems kind of pointless
Drivers are four times more likely to be in a collision while using a phone, according to the York Regional Police webpage on the risks and fines associated with distracted driving.
But they like to say no matter how good of a driver you are, another inexperienced or careless driver can still collide with you.
Indeed. That's why it's good to be alert.
One thing I’ve never seen in any of the coverage of this trial is, did the police ever have a credible reason to stop this guy in the garage at Nathan Phillips Square or were they just in the area and decided to confront a random in a BMW with his wife and baby in the car?
"What?! He doesn't look like a stocky large long bearded fellow? But he's also brown ... Close enough!"
The cops that lied repeatedly under oath should be charged with perjury.
None of them should have been testifying because they should have been fired a long time ago
More likely it's the case that it was was a smart but cynical and immoral play for the Crown. They probably did the math and decided that ruining this guys life with a losing case was less trouble for them than declining to prosecute and suddenly having Totonto cops tanking all their other cases in revenge.
Yah they already tank enough cases due to incompetence
They were off duty no, so technically not plan clothes officers.
False. They were on the job.