And that's okay, my 14 year old niece goes live weekly and shares nothing important

Sure, but your 14 year old niece didn’t grow up on a popular reality tv show. The ONLY reason any of the Gosselins are recognizable is because of the show. Otherwise, no one would recognize them. They don’t have particularly large social media followings and they are not influencers or celebrities in any way, outside of the show. So when they scream they want privacy, but go on lives that have 8,000 viewers on it daily, it seems disingenuous to people.

You realize none of the kids consented to being on the show? And that Hannah is still a high school student? They are literally just acting like teenagers and young adults. It isnt their fault that they want to just do silly lives and can't

I’m well aware that children could not consent. However, the reality is that they are going live and attempting to use their notoriety to garner viewers for said lives, because again, they are cashing out these gifts being sent. If they want to leverage the only thing people know them for, it’s unrealistic of them to believe that people aren’t going to ask about said notoriety. If they really wanted total privacy, they could go Cara’s route and be totally private. However, they wish to monetize the presence they have. That’s totally fine, but it comes with less privacy. They can’t have it both ways.

As someone currently doing that full time… don’t 🧍‍♀️it ain’t fun

People really thought that she wasn’t even going to mention it, but I always knew that she was because she’s always been the most honest mom, and she has really changed over these past 10 years. She seems calmer, more educated. Her and Chloe both have been educating themselves on the world which is good, because they definitely did not know much about it before. I’m a white person, and I remember the year of my life when I had an awakening on things that were happening in this world, and my perspective has never been the same sense. I know that I will never understand, but I am always learning, and that’s the most I can do. Continue to learn and educate myself. Every white ally has had that journey and I’m just glad that Christy and Chloe, and hopefully Clara and Mark, are all on that journey now, and are better people from it. So, I always knew that she was one day going to apologize for this once she had the opportunity to do it, which was this podcast..

What’s wrong with Paige? Lol. Brooke and Paige seem like great, kind, and intelligent people.

I don’t know why you guys feel so bad for Gabriella….when she’s known for being a groupie and literally was “the other women” when he first started his career, I’m sorry but she got her karma for being so mean to Carliz 😭

This part!!!! Lol justice for Carliz.

Kate lacked the capacity or understanding to train someone lol. Granted, we don’t know how specific her instructions to the housekeeper were, or if she specifically asked for those areas dusted. Regardless, it wasn’t so egregious of an omission that she needed to let her go immediately. Kate would have found something to gripe about regardless, though. She’s the type of person who hollers about no one helping her, yet can’t accept help because no one will ever do it better than she can (in her eyes).

yeah, I also wonder how much she was going to pay the housekeeper. moving furniture is physical labor and should be payed accordingly. I feel like she wanted a full in depth moving out of a house type cleaning every week which is A LOT OF WORK. I felt bad for the housekeeper. She seemed like a nice lady who had no idea whom she was working for.

My guess would be that SHE wasn’t paying her anything— that was 100% being funded by TLC, who likely was not offering to pay much. Certainly not enough to work for Kate of all people, nor enough to be cleaning up after 8 kids, 6 of who were still babies at that point. The housekeeper really did seem very sweet! It was probably for the best that she got away lol.

This is so cute 🥹 Kourtney was a cutie when she was little and is a stunner now.

I’ve said this a few times. I don’t care what he did or said— nothing would excuse Kate’s behavior and documented disdain towards him, even as a baby. Lots of people who know him have commented on how respectful, helpful, and sweet he is. None of us know him personally, but I think stating that he’s violent as a fact, when Kate has already ruined this kid’s reputation by the age of 12, is really weird to do. People underestimate parent alienation, sibling alienation, and narcissistic parents (not to mention the abuse that comes with that.)

Alright Kylie, pop off. I’m just here for the plot

Not Christi and Kelly talking about how they didn’t talk about their husbands on the show because they weren’t supposed to and were only supposed to talk about “the people on the show”… but double down about talking about Melissa’s husband earlier in the season lmao I love them but the cognitive dissonance is so crazy

I really hope they take dance seriously, I always wanted to dance when I was a kid and never got the chance to… I feel like if the girls really enjoy it they can make a career out of it!

As a former competitive dancer, making a career out of it is sooo not worth it lol so much toxicity and an even shorter shelf life than modeling imo. I love dance, I still do it recreationally, but it’s tough to make a career out of. I hope they just have fun with it now. I had lots of fun in my classes when I was their age, before I started competing.

To me this just validates that there are some pretty serious issues going on with Collin. We obviously don’t know the full story, but if there is NO-ONE left in the family who speaks to him I have to assume there is a good reason.

I think that’s a hell of an assumption to make. You’re underestimating the power and control of a narcissistic parent. Also, social media doesn’t really mean anything a lot of the time. This kid has been through so much, I think it’s fucked up that people publicly label him as having “serious issues.” He is going into the real world and doesn’t need that onus put on him for future friends, employers, etc to read. Especially when there’s little to no evidence of it being true lol

Little to no evidence? Didn’t he have a public altercation with his dad where he smashed the window of a car or something? I would consider that serious and shows very little self control for someone his age. His father also publicly stated that he has some things to work through, but blamed it on Kate (fine by me, no matter the cause, there are obviously issues.)

He had an outburst when he was like 16. He’s diagnosed with PTSD, so I’m not surprised. You’re free to believe what you want but realistically we don’t know even know whether they all ignore him or not. It’s a really heavy accusation to lob at a kid who’s clearly been through some shit. By that same token, lots of intelligent, sound minded people have spoken about knowing Collin and how kind and respectful he is.

She always seemed very nice and caring. I just wondered if stayed involved with the family, but I suppose that would be impossible to know really. Thanks! :)

It’s not impossible to know— Beth made it clear she is not involved with them and hasn’t been since the book ordeal.

And you know this how? Has she made a recent comment somewhere that I've missed? Thank you.

https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/08/kate-gosselin-former-bff-left-when-stopped-being-about-kids-turned-fame-money/

Where did they address it? Maybe I missed something lol

In the beginning?

All I heard them say is that no Gosselin slander is allowed and that they try to be empathetic people lol

Kimbo coming for the Emmy???? Ok about time they do something interesting. I was getting bored lmao

I love this dress and the color on her!

Let’s stick to interviewing Kris Jenner for Jenner Comms and their business ventures exclusively, shall we? The hip surgery, the tapes with Cait, the role play with Corey, this interview - no one cares, granny. Live, love laugh in ur life and keep it to yourself. Honestly applies to the entire family this point. 😂

“No one cares, granny” asfjkjhgh 😭

https://giphy.com/gifs/WH8d5x5qTsIOA

Kate shouldn’t have brought it up on their live. That’s great you have morals, and I stick with Reddit to comment anything. But you can’t rag on people who will ask them. This is why nepo-babies don’t usually do lives. It’s expected. Especially when their own mother comments this on their live lol

I totally agree. While they deserve to have fun and have privacy, they are choosing to go on lives with thousands of people who ONLY know who they are because of the show. Of course people are going to ask.

Someone also said that they were happy to see the sisters talking, and Kate said “they never stopped. Hannah got her license and things just got easier😉”

I totally agree. The dynamic is weird and there is so much toxicity and codependency and I understand this having a narcissistic parent myself…. And honestly my mom is NOTHING close to as bad as Kate. I think something is going on and they are doing these lives to make Jon mad and also probably to get media attention. I find it all really weird. Nothing about this family is normal

Even the fact that they’ve all decided to do these big lives every night for hours on end, even with siblings who have never had much, if any, online social media presence before is odd. I think a big factor is money— those “gifts” people send to the girls during these lives can be cashed out for money, from my understanding. I just find their behavior the last few weeks really interesting, because even Alexis and Leah who really have not been public at all have jumped on. Same with Kate, who has not been publicly active on social media in 3 years. Mady, who is always self righteous about privacy, is also taking part in these lives. For all their complaints that they want privacy, they have been putting themselves out there a lot. Weird that they shade Collin, when he’s probably the most private of them all along with Cara, Joel, and Aaden. Collin is pretty much radio silent on social media.

Yes I also think it's odd that she lives with her boyfriend. I don't think my parents would've ever allowed that

She doesn’t live with her boyfriend. She still lives with Jon but often stays at her boyfriend’s parents house. She’s 18 almost 19, so there’s not much Jon can do about it whether he likes it or not

I always liked Kate, but i do think she has a lot of narcissistic tendencies that Mady inherited from her. I do feel like Collin might have done something to hurt either Kate and/or the kids and that’s why they have a good relationship with Hannah and not Collin

I personally think that isolating a bunch of kids who are fighting for the same resources and attention from any outside family members and most family friends makes it easy to indoctrinate them to believe a certain thing. If for years all they heard and saw was Collin being disciplined and called disobedient, bad, mean, etc then they are going to believe it. Then, compounding that belief may be the fact that Collin reported her abuse and has now talked about it. They may have felt resentment because he was jeopardizing their lives (and perhaps their lifestyle.)

Her hair looks so good. And before y’all jump me with the “it’s a wig!!!111!!” comments…. We know. I don’t think a single person here believes a strand of those luscious locks belong to ol Kimbo

Mady and Hannah actually said they never ended reconnecting at all - that they had always been talking and getting along.

I know they said that, but I find that hard to believe considering Hannah had said otherwise in the past and none of them even followed each other on their private social media accounts until last year. I think they had some communication but did not fully reconnect until recently.

Well that's sad to hear. For some reason I get the vibe that Hannah and Collin don't really interact that much, despite living in the same house. I also noticed they don't follow each other on ig.

Collin said they love each other and Hannah has always done a lot for him, but it seems that ever since the girls connected again, Hannah’s been taking Mady’s approach to things. Of course that’s just speculation, but it’s what it seems like. I also think Collin and Hannah have very different interests and friends, which is totally normal. But I really feel like any time Hannah has been with Mady, she’s said or agreed with shady comments made about her Dad or even insinuating Collin, which is sad. I think Mady definitely influences her younger sisters. She seems to dominate over their personalities a lot. Even during lives, people always comment for Mady to stop talking over Hannah. I also wonder if maybe there’s some issues between Jon and Hannah right now for some reason, which is only being made worse by Hannah suddenly being close to Mady again, who as we know wants nothing to do with Jon. The dynamics are all really odd.

Did anyone else see last night when Alexis came out as gay on her live with Hannah? It was at about 2:30 AM EST. I was so glad when she said her mother was actually very accepting of it. I cannot stand Kate - but was happy to hear she was accepting at least.

I wasn’t on for that! Alexis has said numerous times she is LGBTQ+, but I don’t think she’s ever specified what exactly she means by that prior to last night. I’m glad Kate is supportive, especially since she was always very open about her dated views regarding gender roles and the like. I’m glad Alexis is supported. She is such a doll! She really exudes joy. Beautiful girl, too. She looks exactly the same as when she was a baby!

I have some video of her talking about it after she initially blurted it out. She and Hannah talked for a while about it and the coming out experience. I can post it if people are interested in seeing it. It is definitely no secret and she seems very proud of being LGBT so I don’t think there’s anything wrong with posting it, but not sure what others think

I’d love to hear her talking about it! She spoke about it on a live, so I don’t think there’s anything wrong with posting it.

They don’t follow him and he doesn’t follow them. Interestingly enough, when Collin posted his last picture, Jon liked it but then later on unliked. Same with Hannah’s last post— Collin liked it and eventually unliked. I think they maybe dislike socializing on places like instagram because it draws attention? Not sure.

FREE TRISTAN AT THIS POINT. RELEASE HIM KHLOE🗣️🗣️🗣️