I was an Ed tech for 3 years and er nurse for 5. When I graduated so many urgent cares and EDs laughed in my face. It’s always been challenging for me to land a job. Heck I’ve been an NP for five years. Recently got a rejection letter due to not enough experience. I’m starting to question if recruiters read.
Regrets. Lol. I became an NP at 28. I loved the alergy job, but there were some red flags. The owner had issues with medical board… after Covid he fired all management. A rogue MA would order meds and perform procedures on herself/friends/family without my knowledge. (Even though I’d be the I only provider that day) with all the secrets I became concerned basically how else are they using my license.
I applied for probably a few hundred. I got interviews for about 10-20 when I was a new grad until I found my first part time job as a NP. After a few months there I was finally able to find a full time Np position.
Went to school par-time worked full time. Graduated with less then 10k debt. I worked overtime at hospital until I paid it off. Best way to do it. My school was also reasonably priced.
When I worked at Kaiser Colorado there were senior nurses who made more than me. They answered phones and got first dibs on vacation times. It's a pretty sweet gig if you're a nurse.
I’m union, unfortunately NP/PAs are the minority in the union, at my Oregon hospital. RNs get the better deal. I do think negotiation is challenging. When I was offered the position there was no negotiation. I have been asking for 6 months to decrease hours. I was told no many times due to union. I recently told them I was resigning due to wanting to decrease hours…. Suddenly they could accommodate. So take that with a grain of salt.
Honestly like everyone else. This is corporate medicine. It’s not flexible and very frustrating. The only “win” I have noticed is those who go locums. You no longer have to be held down by the BS. If you can I would go for it.
I don’t think they are with a company. Whenever we’ve spoken about it they mention it’s the recruiter is his guy. Who places dentists and doctors too. I’ll try and get it from them for you.
Recently, interviewed, toured facilty, and had references checked…. They passed on me… I know all references were great…. Not to spook you, but it happens… literally I have 5 friends who work for this company.
As above a panel is generally the number of patients assigned under you. Some employers have bonuses once your panel reaches above a certain number. I’m learning having a panel is kind of awful.
You should definitely be earning more than I do; you truly deserve it. My pay is just slightly above entry-level, so I believe you could confidently ask for a salary in the range of $100-130k. Given your five years of experience as an NP, you might even secure a higher amount. All you need is to hone the relevant skills.
LinkedIn is essentially the hub for all tech jobs. Search for 'data scientist' and set the industry to 'healthcare'. By sifting through the results, you'll get an idea of what they're looking for, which can guide you on which courses to take
Yea I have multiple friends who work at local facility. I have more experience then them when they were hired. I interviewed and was turned away due to needing more experience. I was shocked. The MD also made it clear they didn’t like NP/PA so I believe that played a part.
All of this, I usually just let them know insurance won’t cover it and they can go to local lab and cash pay. I’ll often try to explain the way but something’s they aren’t willing hear it
I loved being an er nurse so much autonomy and collaboration. Somehow in corporate primary care I have less autonomy. Patients are pissed cause I won’t order the tests they want. I literally could order all the tests then the revising specialists would cancel them saying they aren’t needed. I deal with angry patients and angry admin. It’s a lose lose.
I regret it, although I was very burned out at bedside. Perhaps I’m just difficult to please, but I hate my job as an NP. I don’t feel my education was enough for my role. I make less than I did bedside. I love the patient interaction, but I hate charting. I hate the time it takes to interpret labs, look up this, look up that. I wish I wasn’t in healthcare.
Medical science liaison, biotech sales, preclinical new product planning, market research, clinical research, clinical trial design. Just a few of my non clinical roles. You only need to get one of these jobs and do it very well and then the doors are all open.
Would it be helpful to get specialized exp. Considering taking an rn job in cath lab. Then becoming device rep or msl. Was hoping or time would make me more marketable.. would that help?
Find a better job! My Primary Care/Urgent Care hybrid maxes me out at 20 patients a day, low acuity. 3-4 10s per week. You do your own triage and vitals, but most times I'll see 10-15. No call, inbox or charting from home. They have locations in PNW, WA, Colorado, Oregon and Idaho. Pay is 135k + bonuses at 34 hrs/week.
I took maternity leave. I’ve been back from leave for 3 months to qualify for fmla you have to have worked 1250 hours in the last 12 months. I’m at 975 hours thanks to maternity leave.
I have talked to a few that work there it sounds like a good gig. Obviously, there can be ick when going into peoples homes, but overall the NPs I have talked to felt like they had good work life balance. If your salary you still be paid for no shows and all that.
Crazy idea here. Healthcare is dying. I have to give an organ to get anyone in my family to see a provider. Maybe you could open your own tele health thing, even just advice line. I think that could be successful. Or get you by. I’m sorry you got laid off though.
If I could go back at when I was in a crossroads in my career and education, I think I would have abandoned patient facing care altogether. It is really hard to stay motivated in this current healthcare environment, especially with the way nurses/APPs/docs are being treated by both patients and c-suite alike.
I was an Ed tech for 3 years and er nurse for 5. When I graduated so many urgent cares and EDs laughed in my face. It’s always been challenging for me to land a job. Heck I’ve been an NP for five years. Recently got a rejection letter due to not enough experience. I’m starting to question if recruiters read.
I know this is an old thread, but curious why you went from asthma/allergy to primary care? 🙂
Regrets. Lol. I became an NP at 28. I loved the alergy job, but there were some red flags. The owner had issues with medical board… after Covid he fired all management. A rogue MA would order meds and perform procedures on herself/friends/family without my knowledge. (Even though I’d be the I only provider that day) with all the secrets I became concerned basically how else are they using my license.
I went from asthma/allergy to primary care. A bit challenging but do able. I look for specialty jobs daily now 😂 don’t worry about your skills.
I applied for probably a few hundred. I got interviews for about 10-20 when I was a new grad until I found my first part time job as a NP. After a few months there I was finally able to find a full time Np position.
I had about this many too, it was insane. Even with five years experience I find it challenging at times to land a position.
Went to school par-time worked full time. Graduated with less then 10k debt. I worked overtime at hospital until I paid it off. Best way to do it. My school was also reasonably priced.
When I worked at Kaiser Colorado there were senior nurses who made more than me. They answered phones and got first dibs on vacation times. It's a pretty sweet gig if you're a nurse.
Agreeed RNs have it better at my location too. They just answer phones and make more them me.
I was an NP for 5.5 years and in November, I went back to an RN position and I am SO. DAMN. HAPPY.
Was it hard going back. I left bedside in 2020. So I’m just not sure they would want me. Np of 5 years as well
I’m union, unfortunately NP/PAs are the minority in the union, at my Oregon hospital. RNs get the better deal. I do think negotiation is challenging. When I was offered the position there was no negotiation. I have been asking for 6 months to decrease hours. I was told no many times due to union. I recently told them I was resigning due to wanting to decrease hours…. Suddenly they could accommodate. So take that with a grain of salt.
Honestly like everyone else. This is corporate medicine. It’s not flexible and very frustrating. The only “win” I have noticed is those who go locums. You no longer have to be held down by the BS. If you can I would go for it.
Info please.🙏🏼
I believe they work for aya.
What travel company are they working with if you don't mind me asking?
I don’t think they are with a company. Whenever we’ve spoken about it they mention it’s the recruiter is his guy. Who places dentists and doctors too. I’ll try and get it from them for you.
I refuse to chart on weekends/holidays. If I can’t finish my notes in my paid time it’s their problem, not mine.
I don’t get admin time. This is also what I do
Recently, interviewed, toured facilty, and had references checked…. They passed on me… I know all references were great…. Not to spook you, but it happens… literally I have 5 friends who work for this company.
As above a panel is generally the number of patients assigned under you. Some employers have bonuses once your panel reaches above a certain number. I’m learning having a panel is kind of awful.
Fp no admin time. 36 patient care hours. It’s awful
Sent you a message!
Would you be interested In sending me a message too? Np of four years
You should definitely be earning more than I do; you truly deserve it. My pay is just slightly above entry-level, so I believe you could confidently ask for a salary in the range of $100-130k. Given your five years of experience as an NP, you might even secure a higher amount. All you need is to hone the relevant skills.
Where do you find jobs… just search data scientist?
LinkedIn is essentially the hub for all tech jobs. Search for 'data scientist' and set the industry to 'healthcare'. By sifting through the results, you'll get an idea of what they're looking for, which can guide you on which courses to take
Thank you!!
As in being too young?
Yes. I feel like my PA counter parts who are my age don’t struggle as much to land jobs.
Very odd. I feel like having at least 5 years of RN experience would be enough for employers
Yea I have multiple friends who work at local facility. I have more experience then them when they were hired. I interviewed and was turned away due to needing more experience. I was shocked. The MD also made it clear they didn’t like NP/PA so I believe that played a part.
Wow, that's as bad as "but can't you just give me a Z-pak?"
All of this, I usually just let them know insurance won’t cover it and they can go to local lab and cash pay. I’ll often try to explain the way but something’s they aren’t willing hear it
After reading the responses, I’m wondering if some of you even enjoyed nursing.
I loved being an er nurse so much autonomy and collaboration. Somehow in corporate primary care I have less autonomy. Patients are pissed cause I won’t order the tests they want. I literally could order all the tests then the revising specialists would cancel them saying they aren’t needed. I deal with angry patients and angry admin. It’s a lose lose.
I regret it, although I was very burned out at bedside. Perhaps I’m just difficult to please, but I hate my job as an NP. I don’t feel my education was enough for my role. I make less than I did bedside. I love the patient interaction, but I hate charting. I hate the time it takes to interpret labs, look up this, look up that. I wish I wasn’t in healthcare.
Same and I’ve been doing it for 5 years.
Medical science liaison, biotech sales, preclinical new product planning, market research, clinical research, clinical trial design. Just a few of my non clinical roles. You only need to get one of these jobs and do it very well and then the doors are all open.
Would it be helpful to get specialized exp. Considering taking an rn job in cath lab. Then becoming device rep or msl. Was hoping or time would make me more marketable.. would that help?
Find a better job! My Primary Care/Urgent Care hybrid maxes me out at 20 patients a day, low acuity. 3-4 10s per week. You do your own triage and vitals, but most times I'll see 10-15. No call, inbox or charting from home. They have locations in PNW, WA, Colorado, Oregon and Idaho. Pay is 135k + bonuses at 34 hrs/week.
Yea where’s this at?
They put you on an improvement plan for taking care of a sick child? Unless you’ve burned through all of your fmla you just file a lawsuit.
I took maternity leave. I’ve been back from leave for 3 months to qualify for fmla you have to have worked 1250 hours in the last 12 months. I’m at 975 hours thanks to maternity leave.
I have talked to a few that work there it sounds like a good gig. Obviously, there can be ick when going into peoples homes, but overall the NPs I have talked to felt like they had good work life balance. If your salary you still be paid for no shows and all that.
Currently in family practice wanting to do something more family friendly as well.
Back door way but you could get fnp. Then go work at urgent care for 2,000 hours then test into enp
Crazy idea here. Healthcare is dying. I have to give an organ to get anyone in my family to see a provider. Maybe you could open your own tele health thing, even just advice line. I think that could be successful. Or get you by. I’m sorry you got laid off though.
If I could go back at when I was in a crossroads in my career and education, I think I would have abandoned patient facing care altogether. It is really hard to stay motivated in this current healthcare environment, especially with the way nurses/APPs/docs are being treated by both patients and c-suite alike.
Agree with all of this